Actually, sambades 1.9.17p2-1 doesn't work either. I have reported this as a bug before but I don't think anything ever happened. No solution, no fix .. :-( The sambades machine that DOES work runs 1.9.16p11-1. Unfortunately this is no doubt long since gone from ftp sites. Hamish -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to email@example.com . Trouble? e-mail to firstname.lastname@example.org .