I've pulled my password from /etc/shadow and put in the O: field in /etc/ircd/ircd.conf. I still get invallid password when I do /oper cowboy xxxxx I tried SUID/root, but ps -aux still shows ircd running as irc?!? What am I missing? Richard Nelson -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .