I agree that nobody shoudl be using root. But for newbies its hard having to learn Unix adn system admin at the same time. By using root, you avoid all the 'Permission denied' messages. BG -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to debian-user-request@lists.debian.org . Trouble? e-mail to templin@bucknell.edu .