FWIW, the debian lists just started showing up again on my news server from someplace in France. I rather LIKE using them in Unsenet format rather than mailing list format only because my mailbox gets enough clutter. George Bonser firstname.lastname@example.org, email@example.com -- TO UNSUBSCRIBE FROM THIS MAILING LIST: e-mail the word "unsubscribe" to firstname.lastname@example.org . Trouble? e-mail to email@example.com .