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Re: What editors are in base?



Martin Schulze wrote:
> 
> Greg Vence writes:
> 
> > > ae is on board.
> > >
> > > > I am surprised nobody mentioned vi -- what, no purists out there
> > > > anymore? :-)
> > >
> > > We already faught the fight before - and lost.  ae won. :-(
> > > There's a set of macros which can turn ae in a vi-mode.  This
> > > might be included in further releases.
> > >
> > I've never seen a base-line Unix box w/o vi that was what prompted the
> > initial mail.
> 
> Me too.  Apart from the fact that i cannot understand the decision
> I don't want to perform this fight a second time.  This was the decision
> and now we should al live with it until we find a better solution
> (which could mean finding a very small vi or reducing elvis to only
> support basic functions that makes it very small; or the above mentioned
> vi-macros)
> 
> Apart from the fact that I need a vi, many new users won't ever use
> vi if they find it.  vi is a tool for freaks, hackers and gurus
                                       ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
>(therefore
> it's a very good editor for us...).  Beginners are very happy with ae
> because they can see which commands they can type.  It is really an
> easy editor.  Therefore it should be included in the base set. :-)
> 
>         Regards,
> 
>         Joey
> 
> --
>   / Martin Schulze * Debian GNU/Linux Developer * joey@debian.org /
>  / http://www.debian.org/              http://home.pages.de/~joey/

Well I am not sure I fit into any of those categories (well, maybe
the first one).

When I was in school, my UNIX teacher had one immutable law;
"Thou shalt learn vi".  His argument was that no matter what
flavor of unix you happen to come across in your career as a
unix administrator, there will always be vi on the system.  I
have to admit there have been times I was very grateful he made
me learn it.  Having worked with at least 9 flavors of unix,
it was the most valuable lesson I learned in school.

-- 
Ken Gaugler  N6OSK  Santa Clara, California
email: keng@wco.com  URL: http://www.wco.com/~keng
"The life of a Repo Man is always INTENSE..."


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