Re: TEI -biting the bullet
On Thu, 4 Mar 2004 20:56:08 -0500 from a terminal far far away <Syd/>
wrote:
>Woah! I'm sorry to be so late; this one fell trhough the cracks
>somehow.
>
LOL.. Your timing is actually excellent. I was literally About to start
on a final run at a HowTo.
>
>> I have a developer tool for Freedict (beta level) that produces the
>> following header/prologue.
>
>What is Freedict?
Oops a free (FLOSS) dictionary project (mostly translation type
dictionaries).
http://www.freedict.de
We are currently undergoing a major overhaul (behind the scenes).
ETA circa 2 months.
(new web site documentation and development tools scheduled)
>> <?xml version="1.0" encoding="utf-8" lang ="en" standalone="no" ?>
>
>As you mention, lang="en" belongs on either the root element or <text>.
Yep and fixed now..
>
>
>> <!DOCTYPE TEI.2 PUBLIC "-//TEI Consortium//DTD TEI P4//EN"
>
>See below.
>
>
>> "http://www.tei-c. org/P4X/DTD/tei2.dtd" [
> ^
>Need to nuke the space, of course. But see below.
>
>
Hopefully that was a typo .. oops.. will check.
(Thanks)
>> <!--this file auto generated on Fri Feb 6 16:18:27 2004 by
>> dict2xml.py-0.1.3
>
>I haven't figured out if you have control over Freedict or not, but if
>you do, you might want to consider putting this information somewhere
>in the header as content, instead of a comment. E.g.,
> <sourceDesc>
> <p>Automatically generated on <date
> value="2004-02-06T16:18:27">Fri, 06 Feb 04</date> by the
> program <name>dict2xml.py-0.1.3</name>.</p>
> </sourceDesc>
Ok I understand.. Yes a good idea. (May do both)
I am a developer for freedict but not one of the head honchos.
(Still working on autogenerating proper TEI header. Some dictionaries
don't have a header at all.. yet)
>
>
>> Notes: I have used a URI for the system id ...
>
>Once all the path stuff is straightened out (is it already?), any
>reason not to use a path, something like
>"/user/local/share/xml/TEI/P4/tei2.dtd"?
>
Ah yes...
1/ I am not sure of the debian install path (if any) .
2/ The URI should be more portable.
Other than that I would prefer to use a path name :)
>
>> ... and the Public ID is generic I got it from their site. (At
>> the moment it's not the ONLY one they use)
>
>?? This FPI occurs only in one (pretty outdated, I'm sad to say) page
>on SGML to XML conversion. At the time you wrote this there were at
>least two others floating about, although I think since then I've
>killed one of them. Current doctrine, as much as I dislike it, is
>"-//TEI P4//DTD Main Document Type//EN".
>
Bugger ! I changed from that to the "Consortium" string .. doh !
I will change everything back... Thanks for the info.
>
>> Note: the INCLUDES do some magic to make it XML. and grab the DTD
>> / define the structure etc. . (all TEI docs start with the TEI
>> element.. AFAIK)
>
>Yes, all TEI P4 documents have a root element of either TEI.2 or
>teiCorpus.2 (unless renamed).
>
>
>> I am also curious as to what to name the application catalog (s)
>> i.e.
>> /etc/sgml/tei2P4.cat
>> and / or
>> /etc/xml/tei2P4.xml
>
>I am not claiming that these are at all particularly good names, but
>the catalogs that come with the DTDs are called catalog.tei and
>teicatalog.xml.
>
I am not familiar enough with TEI. My first instinct was to use the
names as found in the ZIP file... Then I was thinking maybe people would
have multiple versions.. Certainly the final catalogs are still named as
per TEI . <insert sound of grinding metal> yeah should be possible to
keep the naming as you noted above right through.
The developer level documentation (HowTo I am working on at the moment
includes a full section on installing and configuring the Full TEI DTD's
.. It would be nice to get it right :)
I am recommending that by prefence packaging tools (debs rpms) are used,
other wise I am suggesting they install under /user/local/sgml/ as this
is a real SGML technology that also does XML .. as far as I can see.
I also give basic instructions for a user only install, with a path URI
as an example.
>
>> ... I can find no ... way ... of getting emacs to process XML style
>> catalog chains.. A snack with SGML but not the other way around.
>
>I am not aware of any way to do this, either. Perhaps nXML mode?
Works 5X5 via sgml so I guess I will stick with that as a suggested
method for a new user install.
>
>
>HTH.
>
Thanks for the info ... I think :)
Peter
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