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Re: concrete steps for improving apt downloading security and privacy



On Sun, Jul 13, 2014 at 08:35:56AM +0900, Joel Rees wrote:
> MD5 has been broken for a small number of applications. Its status is
> questionable for the rest, but if we want to help break it completely,
> let's get all the distros that insist on still using MD5 to use it,
> not just for signing, but for encrypting their distribution images.

The point that you miss is that a chosen plaintext attack is not
dependent on the secret key in use. It's an attack against the algorithm
itself. If we sign publically available data (be it Debian packages, CD
images, or this email) with a given key, we really aren't giving our
adversaries anything that they can't create for themselves. Keys are
cheap to generate. If an adversary wants to perform chosen plaintext
analysis, they can do so today with their own keys and with all the
common public datasets they want. Getting "all the distros that insist
on still using MD5 to use it, not just for signing, but for encrypting
their distribution images" won't change anything. (Not to mention that
it shows a fundamental misunderstanding of what a digest algorithm like
md5 actually is.)

noah

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