Re: Packet sniffing & regular users
On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, s. keeling wrote:
> Incoming from Alvin Oga:
> > On Wed, 2 Mar 2005, David Mandelberg wrote:
> > > s. keeling wrote:
> > > > Isn't it generally accepted that black hats who get local access (ie.,
> > > > a user login account) is _much_ worse than black hats who've been kept
> > anybody and everybody has "local access" with or without permission
> > > > out? Assuming black hat wants root, taking over a user's account is a
> > > > very big first step.
> > that's trivial to do ... assuming you allow anybody to reboot a pc
> Are you confusing "local access" with "physical access?" With the
> latter, all bets are off and any security you rely on on the running
> system is irrelevant.
ah .. good point ... i make no distinction between "local access"
vs "physical access" in that if the server is behind the locked
door, it'd be better than if its on the corp server in the next
open cubicle on the same cat 5 wires, hubs and switches etc
> > sniffers:
> > http://linux-sec.net/Sniffers
> > i like pfilt.pl ... anybody, non-techies can use it and sniff
that's the one i like .. simple .. ez
it didn't go anywhere else for me .. but okay .. there are some
cross links to get to the same file
> Your link points at wireless sniffers?
rest of the wireless sniffer and wep crackers
> But thanks for that. Interesting site.
the ones i "understood" to some extent
( ez enuff to see, and use )
and for corp managers ( non-techies ) to run it and say "oh shit"