Re: OT: Consensus
Hi Thomas,
don't get me wrong, I did not mean any disrespect for Ted or the list or
anyone's opinions. I merely stated that there are better places to discuss
the politics of war or today than here. I know there are filters -
this is the first time I am actually considering using one. My point
(which was probably missed) was that these discussions have the potential
to chase away perfectly normal and good people from what is otherwise a
really educational and informational mailing list.
When it comes to certain topics, there are always so many people willing
to discuss. This does not mean that they will, if they know any better :)
Cheers,
Ognen
On Tue, 11 Mar 2003, Thomas Ritter wrote:
> Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 16:28 schrieb Duzlevski, Ognen:
> > Ted,
> >
> > please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled
> > up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or
> > done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security
> > reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no
> > more. I suspect it took you some time to write what you wrote below and I
> > suspect that your time could be used more productively.
>
> Woops, many mails were off topic, but not that of Ted Parvu, who started a
> discussion about rules for on/off-topic material to this list, which really
> CANNOT be discussed anywhere else than debian-security, as it's about the ML
> debian-security itself.
>
> Trying to state a rule saying all mails with the subject prefix "OT:" can be
> considered as "not direct discussion about debian security", but discussion
> between the people behind this list should be able to make everyone happy as
> mail filters are really easy to set up and this could even become a
> subscription option, so OT-mails would never reach those who don't want them,
>
> Sometimes it makes sense to discuss every-day-topics in places where these
> things aren't usually discussed, and many mails show there is much interest.
> I know this off-topic-discussion very well. One day after the WTC was
> destroyed I went to my university and nearly all the computer scientists
> around me just worked on their projects like every day, not talking a single
> word about what happened. I think of this as really sick, sorry.
>
> Don't rant, filter or subscribe to moderated lists as long as there are so
> many people willing to discuss. A good discussion in a mailing list can't be
> carried elsewhere because you won't find the same people there - it will
> simply die as long as there aren't any 1-2 click solutions to move the
> discussion, you'd have to create a mailing list for that discussion only and
> make the people who participated subscribe. There's no way this would be done
> for a single thread, and the interesting thing is THAT the thread consists of
> debian-security subscribers.
>
> (By the way, I just note my KMail has no easy "ignore this thread" context
> menu entry... *jump-to-the-bugwizard*)
> Okay, it's in the kmail wishlist now, using filters it would be 4-5 clicks ;)
>
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> Thomas Ritter
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