Re: OT: Consensus

[Thomas Ritter <th.ritter@gmx.net>]

Am Dienstag, 11. März 2003 16:28 schrieb Duzlevski, Ognen:
> Ted,
>
> please, take this somewhere else. In the past days this debate has filled
> up my mailbox - if I wanted such a debate I would have turned on the TV or
> done something similar. I subscribed to this list for debian security
> reasons, not to read lamentations and political views. pls, pls, pls, no
> more. I suspect it took you some time to write what you wrote below and I
> suspect that your time could be used more productively.

Woops, many mails were off topic, but not that of Ted Parvu, who started a 
discussion about rules for on/off-topic material to this list, which really 
CANNOT be discussed anywhere else than debian-security, as it's about the ML 
debian-security itself.

Trying to state a rule saying all mails with the subject prefix "OT:" can be 
considered as "not direct discussion about debian security", but discussion 
between the people behind this list should be able to make everyone happy as 
mail filters are really easy to set up and this could even become a 
subscription option, so OT-mails would never reach those who don't want them,

Sometimes it makes sense to discuss every-day-topics in places where these 
things aren't usually discussed, and many mails show there is much interest. 
I know this off-topic-discussion very well. One day after the WTC was 
destroyed I went to my university and nearly all the computer scientists 
around me just worked on their projects like every day, not talking a single 
word about what happened. I think of this as really sick, sorry.

Don't rant, filter or subscribe to moderated lists as long as there are so 
many people willing to discuss. A good discussion in a mailing list can't be 
carried elsewhere because you won't find the same people there - it will 
simply die as long as there aren't any 1-2 click solutions to move the 
discussion, you'd have to create a mailing list for that discussion only and 
make the people who participated subscribe. There's no way this would be done 
for a single thread, and the interesting thing is THAT the thread consists of 
debian-security subscribers.

(By the way, I just note my KMail has no easy "ignore this thread" context 
menu entry... *jump-to-the-bugwizard*)
Okay, it's in the kmail wishlist now, using filters it would be 4-5 clicks ;)

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Thomas Ritter