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Re: Peace is not off topic



On Mon, Mar 10, 2003 at 04:53:41PM -0500, Robert B Wilson imagined:

> On Mon, 10 Mar 2003 11:23:04 -0800 Ted Parvu <ted@parvu.net> writes:
> > The "Bush Doctrine" clearly spells out that America is now
> > an Empire.  "You are either with us or against us."

> When did Bush actually say that America is now an empire?  he
> didn't.  

Do you think a warmonger like Bush is going to come clean and
spell it out for you?  Don't be silly.  These people are in the
business of misinformation and propoganda, not wearing their
hearts on their sleeve.  Waiter, could I get a reality check
please?

> Bush doesn't want to go to war with Iraq, but he knows that it
> is inevitable.  

War is only inevitable if the powers that be aren't *smart
enough* (hence, "morons") to find a peaceful solution.  There is
so much deception going on right now on the part of the US
administration in their relations with their citizens, that it
is not funny at all.

Suuuuuuuuurrrrrrrrreeeeeeeeee Dubya doesn't wanna go to war...

> Who attacked first, the terrorists or the US?  

Simple - the US.  Wake up and smell the coffee.  Do you think
people are willing to sacrifice their lives for nothing?
There's a long history of international abuse and intimidation
(of which most dumb Americans remain blissfully unaware) --
that's one of the reasons that Americans are so despised,
wherever they travel abroad.

> Iraq is known to support terrorism and has been developing
> chemical and biological weapons for years.

Kind of like the USSA, and a lot of other countries I bet. So
what's your point?

[snip]

> > Find this hard to believe?  Then you are not paying
> > attention.

> I'm afraid you are the one who has not been paying attention.
> The US can't have peace when there are people with chemical
> and biological weapons who would be willing to die to destroy
> the US.

You're not getting it:  *why* are these people willing to give
their lives?  I'll bet it's *not* because they are insane
fanatical religious freaks.  I'll bet it has more to do with the
US's horrendous foreign policy since WWII.  The US cannot expect
to fuck people over again and again and not have it come back on
them sooner or later -- that would be totally illogical.  So
what lesson has the current US administration (perhaps we should
just start to refer to them as the 'Junta', as Gore Vidal does)
learned?  Nothing.  The stupid bastards are going to take the
whole thing to the next level: piss off even more people, and
*increase* the probability of retaliation -- yet again.

Yes Dubya and his cronies truly are truly "morons".  What else
can you call behaviour so lacking in basic intelligence?

My $0.02,
Raymond
-- 
"You deserve to be able to cooperate openly and freely with other
people who use software.  You deserve free software."
 -Richard M. Stallman, Free Software Foundation, http://www.fsf.org

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