Pssst! You are writing to a public mailing list. It is more difficult to complain and direct than to just ignore things, so please remain respectful in your writing and be it alone that I want to be reminded only about the best of mine regarding the sponsoring of a package of yours. Let the source speak. Is it on some svn repository somewhere? The little bits I can then fix myself directly rather than writing about it, which saves me work. Best, Steffen On Friday 05 October 2007 16:36:07 Rudi Cilibrasi wrote: > Sorry I think I got the terms confused: "adoption" and "sponsoring". > What I meant, precisely, is that I am no longer willing to waste time > making useless changes to the package to satisfy other people's > arbitrary packaging requests when these same changes run counter to > real technical advantages of the changes I have implemented. So, I am > happy to keep maintaining this excellent and highly useful package if > I can find a way to do so efficiently and effectively... but the > problem is that upstream does not believe in clean packaging and does > not really accept patches for years now, and my first Debian friend > Paul van Tilburg made me rebuild this package at least three times > before the first upload in entirely different ways. Now Michael is > asking for more changes but they more or less ignore the direction the > package has been moving for years (that is: towards becoming a branch > of libsvm or a new project). So, I am happy to keep participating if > my time can be less wasted but I don't want to keep rebuilding more > versions of the package for purely aesthetic issues like: where the > authorship is listed, or what exactly the > wording should be in the changelog to summarize the changes. I affirm > that everything I wrote (and debsigned) is honest and accurate to the > best of my knowledge, but it is not so simple necessarily. Cheers, > > -r. > > On 10/5/07, Steffen Moeller <moeller@inb.uni-luebeck.de> wrote: > > Hi Rudi, > > > > you are requesting an adoption, not a sponsoring. Is the source on the > > svn repository? The problem with sponsoring is that you indicate to take > > over when the maintainer leaves and you just said so. If you continue > > maintaining it Michael is not coming up with good reasons why the package > > should not be ready, then, well, I might be going for it. > > > > Cheers, > > > > Steffen > > > > On Friday 05 October 2007 16:11:51 Rudi Cilibrasi wrote: > > > I am having a hard time getting my package, libsvm, sponsored: > > > > > > http://mentors.debian.net/debian/pool/main/l/libsvm/libsvm_2.84.0-2.dsc > > > > > > Michael Koch believes it is inappropriate for me to be changing > > > AUTHORS and THANKS. Actually, I made those up quite some time ago to > > > allow for automake to be used in packaging (optionally). But, he > > > hates it and will not sponsor the package as a result for weeks. > > > Also, I think he has decided that now is the right time for me to > > > switch patch maintanance systems from what I gather but I am not sure > > > because the requirements seem to be changing. Personally, I am not > > > willing to change it anymore, but there is a bug that should be closed > > > and another I would like to get started on so I was wondering if there > > > is anybody else on the Debian Science team that is willing to take the > > > risk of uploading this package. Also, I am starting a new job and > > > have no time to devote to this packge anymore but realize it is very > > > popular so hope somebody uploads it. > > > > > > Best regards, > > > > > > -r. > > > > > > -- > > > "We can try to do it by breaking free of the mental prison of > > > separation and exclusion and see the world in its interconnectedness > > > and non-separability, allowing new alternatives to emerge." -- after > > > Vandana Shiva > > > > -- > > > > Dr. Steffen Möller > > University of Lübeck > > Institute for Neuro- and Bioinformatics > > Ratzeburger Allee 160 > > 23538 Lübeck > > Germany > > T: +49 451 500 5504 > > F: +49 451 500 5502 > > moeller@inb.uni-luebeck.de
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