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Re: Thoughts about vnc-java



Hi Sven,

On  Mo 02 Nov 2020 18:59:13 CET, Sven Geuer wrote:

Hi Mike and Ola,

Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2020, 09:45 +0100 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:
Hi

Transitional is the safest approach but I can live with removing it.

/ Ola

Den fre 30 okt. 2020 21:19Mike Gabriel <
mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>
skrev:

> Hi,
>
> On  Fr 30 Okt 2020 21:03:45 CET, Sven Geuer wrote:
>
> > Hello Ola, Mike and Team,
> >
> > Looking at the upstream source code and the tightvnc-java
> > changelog
> > vnc-java [1] is a predecessor of tightvnc-java [2]. The only
> > major
> > difference seems to be that vnc-java is the companion package of
> > another server package, vncserver, instead of tighvncserver.
> > vncserver
> > in turn disappeared from Debian during 2010, if my findings are
> > correct.
> >
> > The functionalities of vnc-java and tightvnc-java are the same,
> > only
> > the calls differ:
> >
> > /usr/bin/jvncviewer                           versus
> /usr/bin/jtightvncviewer
> > /usr/share/java/vncviewer.jar                 versus
> /usr/share/java/tightvncviewer.jar
> > /usr/share/vnc-java/vncviewer.jar             versus
> /usr/share/tightvnc-java/VncViewer.jar
> > CODE=vncviewer.class
> > ARCHIVE=vncviewer.jar versus  CODE=tightvncviewer.VncViewer
> > ARCHIVE=VncViewer.jar
> >
> > Would it make sense to convert vnc-java into a transitional
> > package, to
> > bring the still existing users (see popcon [3]) over to tightvnc-
> > java?
> >
> > Or, as upstream is not available any more, ignore the upstream
> > code and
> > make it using tightvnc-java as its backend to do the real job?
> >
> > Or even make it a native Debian package using tightvnc-java as
> > its
> > backend to do the real job?
> >
> > Or, ...
>
> How about simply removing vnc-java from Debian?
>
> I wouldn't trust popcon that much here. Do you have any other
> evidence
> that the package is really used by people (or by dependent
> packages).
>
> Old and unmaintained code should be removed from Debian.
>
> One could think about shipping a wrapper script named jvncviewer
> that
> mimicks the command link syntax of the executable in vnc-java but
> wraps around jtightvncviewer.
>
> Except from that... Dump it, I'd say. (But that is just one single
> opinion, maybe others have other thoughts on this).
>
> Mike


@Mike: The popcon numbers is the only evidence I could find of vnc-java
being in use. No other package refers to vnc-java.

I am fine with removing the package too. Not sure whether this happens
automatically at some point in time.

Sven

As Ola said, there is a specific procedure for the removal of packages from testing/unstable (removal request filed as a bug against the ftp.debian.org virtual package).

Will you handle this? Or shall I?

Mike
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