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Re: Thoughts about vnc-java



Hi Mike and Ola,

Am Sonntag, den 01.11.2020, 09:45 +0100 schrieb Ola Lundqvist:
> Hi
> 
> Transitional is the safest approach but I can live with removing it.
> 
> / Ola
> 
> Den fre 30 okt. 2020 21:19Mike Gabriel <
> mike.gabriel@das-netzwerkteam.de>
> skrev:
> 
> > Hi,
> > 
> > On  Fr 30 Okt 2020 21:03:45 CET, Sven Geuer wrote:
> > 
> > > Hello Ola, Mike and Team,
> > > 
> > > Looking at the upstream source code and the tightvnc-java
> > > changelog
> > > vnc-java [1] is a predecessor of tightvnc-java [2]. The only
> > > major
> > > difference seems to be that vnc-java is the companion package of
> > > another server package, vncserver, instead of tighvncserver.
> > > vncserver
> > > in turn disappeared from Debian during 2010, if my findings are
> > > correct.
> > > 
> > > The functionalities of vnc-java and tightvnc-java are the same,
> > > only
> > > the calls differ:
> > > 
> > > /usr/bin/jvncviewer                           versus
> > /usr/bin/jtightvncviewer
> > > /usr/share/java/vncviewer.jar                 versus
> > /usr/share/java/tightvncviewer.jar
> > > /usr/share/vnc-java/vncviewer.jar             versus
> > /usr/share/tightvnc-java/VncViewer.jar
> > > CODE=vncviewer.class
> > > ARCHIVE=vncviewer.jar versus  CODE=tightvncviewer.VncViewer
> > > ARCHIVE=VncViewer.jar
> > > 
> > > Would it make sense to convert vnc-java into a transitional
> > > package, to
> > > bring the still existing users (see popcon [3]) over to tightvnc-
> > > java?
> > > 
> > > Or, as upstream is not available any more, ignore the upstream
> > > code and
> > > make it using tightvnc-java as its backend to do the real job?
> > > 
> > > Or even make it a native Debian package using tightvnc-java as
> > > its
> > > backend to do the real job?
> > > 
> > > Or, ...
> > 
> > How about simply removing vnc-java from Debian?
> > 
> > I wouldn't trust popcon that much here. Do you have any other
> > evidence
> > that the package is really used by people (or by dependent
> > packages).
> > 
> > Old and unmaintained code should be removed from Debian.
> > 
> > One could think about shipping a wrapper script named jvncviewer
> > that
> > mimicks the command link syntax of the executable in vnc-java but
> > wraps around jtightvncviewer.
> > 
> > Except from that... Dump it, I'd say. (But that is just one single
> > opinion, maybe others have other thoughts on this).
> > 
> > Mike
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> > 

@Mike: The popcon numbers is the only evidence I could find of vnc-java 
being in use. No other package refers to vnc-java.

I am fine with removing the package too. Not sure whether this happens
automatically at some point in time.

Sven

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