On Sat, Feb 10, 2007 at 03:19:28PM +0100, neologix@free.fr wrote: > > That's not a flamebait, it's a proposal: instead of deciding a precise release > date, at least decide a deadline for the freeze. Then, you take the time it > takes to solve the rc-bugs. Or, you chose to freeze when you have the right > kernel, the right toolchain. Not because someone said 2 years ago that December > 6th would be the right time. > Your "proposal" can hardly be called that. It is more some ramblings. Anyhow, have you ever worked on a team or managed one? Ever heard of Parkinson's law? Without a hard "target" things will continue to wander "forever" without really progressing to the goal. This is because the goal is not clearly defined. Were you around for the Woody->Sarge release cycle? I started using Debian shortly after Woody was released. I remember thinking what a great operating system Debian was and not being able to wait to see what the next release would be like. Eventually, it took so long that I was forced to go to testing/unstable on many machines where this is not what I wanted. I remember after Sarge was released and hard targets started being set for the Etch release thinking that it would be a much better situation. For the most part, I think that is the case. I would rather a group of people be working toward even a missed deadline than a group working toward a nebulous "when it's ready" when "ready" has not been clearly defined. > > So you didn't even read my message. > I don't want a timely release, I want a release when it's ready, because it's > the only way to achieve quality and freedom: for example, we're still stuck with > these non-free firmwares, and many bugs are tagged as etch-ignore, because of > this deadline. > Right. It is better that way. Please refer back to the Woody->Sarge release cycle if you still have questions. > > So you're asking someone to join the Debian team while the recent event made > some developpers quit the project, and others slow down their work? Maybe it's > time to start asking yourself what's wrong, uh? > What recent event? That had nothing to do with the timeline versus "when it's ready" debate and had everything to do with trying to accelerate the process in general. Regards, -Roberto -- Roberto C. Sanchez http://people.connexer.com/~roberto http://www.connexer.com
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