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Bug#706882: kmail: A does not reply to all



On Tuesday, 2013-05-07, Ross Boylan wrote:
> On Monday, May 06, 2013 10:00:12 AM Kevin Krammer wrote:
> > On Monday, 2013-05-06, Ross Boylan wrote:
> > > Are you saying it's a KDE standard to always use capital letters? 
> > > That's quite confusing to me, since lower and upper case letters often
> > > do different things--in fact they do different things in KMail, as I
> > > found.
> > 
> > No, what I am saying is that, at least the default style's visual hint
> > for keyboard shortcut uses the symbol on the key to mean the key
> 
> Since the symbol on the physical key is uppercase, that comes down to the
> same thing, i.e. display an uppercase letter when a lower case letter is
> meant.

Indeed, which is why the actual uppercase letter is referred to as a Shift + 
the letter, a modifier/key combination.

> I may be particularly sensitive to this since I'm also using mutt, for
> which there are many cases in which lower and upper case differ, and both
> do something useful.

That is also often the case in KDE applications. Any such shortcut will be 
depict as the keyboard combination that is necessary for that letter to 
happen, which is Shift + the letter (unless of course capslock is active, but 
I don't think the keyboard shortcut visual hint changes when that happens).

> > and uses
> > modifiers to mean that the key needs to be pressed while the depict
> > combination of modifier keys are held.
> > 
> > I am not aware of any keyboard that uses lowercase letters on its
> > keycaps, but if course if you have such a keyboard that the
> > visualization hint
> 
> That's not the issue.  The issue is that an uppercase shortcut suggests, at
> least to me, using the upper case letter.

Different expectations then.
For me a key is always just that key, if I also need to hold a modifier I 
expect that modifier to be also part of the visual hint.

> > would not match what you are seeing, leading you to the assumption that
> > you must hold the shift modifier to achieve the depict keystroke.
> > 
> > Maybe you could file a feature request against Qt to allow toggle for
> > people such as yours with a keyboard with lower case characters on their
> > keycaps.
> 
> So you think this is ultimately a Qt, rather than KDE, issue?

Could depend on the style being used, but it could be something the Qt menu 
code does.

> > > The main reason I think this matters a bit is that it is relatively
> > > easy to hit A and think you are replying to all recipients if you
> > > don't check. That almost happend to me.
> > 
> > Interesting. Whenever I hit the A key it does indeed invoke the
> 
> I take it from the previous remarks that when you say "hit the A key" you
> mean using keystrokes that create a lowercase a.

Indeed. That's what my A key does :)

> That works for me too. 

Hehe.

> What doesn't work is hitting keys (i.e., shift and A) the mean capital A. 
> That does reply, rather than reply-all.

Ah, Isee, you want Shift+A to trigger reply-all. You can set that as a 
replacement in KMail's shortcut configuration or even add it as a second 
shortcut if you want both.

Cheers,
Kevin

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