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Re: kmail and newimap4



Thank you for the prompt response. 

Hmm, I didn't look at it that way. Has kmail always recommended 
kdepim-kio-plugins? If not, was it recommended during the dist-upgrade 
process?

Again, you make a good case and I see things differently now. 

Sincerely,
Josh Gilbert. 


On Wednesday 08 September 2004 07:03 pm, Alejandro Exojo wrote:
> El Jueves, 9 de Septiembre de 2004 00:26, Josh Gilbert escribió:
> > So at http://lists.debian.org/debian-qt-kde/2004/08/msg00769.html I found
> > a message explaining that you need to install kdepim-kio-plugins to get
> > imap with kmail. The reason was that some users might want to use kmail
> > to browse local mboxes. I put the message I found at the bottom of this,
> > it appears to be the current last word.
>
> I'm using kmail for fetching only POP3 accounts. Why should we have to
> install additional packages? This is bad for the mirrors, for the archive,
> for the packagers, and of course, for users, etc.
>
> > I disagree extremely strongly with the idea that imap should be
> > independent of kmail. My use case, a very common one I should think, is
> > that I ran apt-get dist-upgrade (I run unstable) and kmail broke! I
> > didn't install any
>
> No, it didn't broke, it's just that you are missing some functionality.
>
> > pim package, I needed kmail, I installed kmail. I got an error message
> > when
>
> You are signing your message. Should kmail depend on gnupg? Or
> spamassassin?
>
> > I tried to access an existing imap account, "could not start process for
> > newimap". My response was to apt-cache search for imap. Failed. I now
> > know that I could have apt-cache searched for newimap and found
> > kdepim-kio-plugins. Silly me, I thought that newimap should parse to two
> > tokens, "new imap".
>
> apt-cache show kmail | grep Recommends
>
> > Now, suppose that I was a user who didn't have root and my admin just
> > apt-get upgrad'ed me. I would lose functionality and have no idea why and
> > little recourse. Furthermore, I think that imap support should always
> > come with kmail, as the commands are in the program. It is incredibly
> > frustrating to have commands in the program which don't work. I think
> > that this far outweighs the cost of having to download imap support. The
> > default installation should not lead to a broken program!
>
> Sincerely, this admin isn't doing what he should. Debian packages have
> relations. One is Depends, and other are Recommends and Suggests. If it's
> absolutely necessary for package A to have installed package B, then this
> is a dependency. If package C is not absolutely necessary for running A,
> but most users will find it useful, thats a recommendation.
>
> At least, that is what I understand reading the Debian Policy:
> http://www.debian.org/doc/debian-policy/ch-relationships.html#s-binarydeps

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