Re: BugSquash Party this sunday
On 00-01-02 Torsten Landschoff wrote:
> On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 03:43:35PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
>
> > > > Free to help? No real organisation through the whole time?
> >
> > > Why do you continue to think that there is no real organization???
> > > Have you ever participated in one of the learlier bugsquash days?
> >
> > Because from the information which I got from Torsten Landschoff who
> > took part on one of it. And after the "success" of the first party, I
> > didn't want to take part on the second one.
> While I think the first party was rather successful the second wasn't. At
> least what I am concerned. When I joined the channel I asked what I should
> work on and after nobody noticed me I looked at the list and picked a bug.
> After reading the whole bts log on it, getting the source and trying it
> out I discovered it was not a bug.
[...]
And this is bad as it's not very effective and I could use my time for
better purposes. I think it's important that such work gets coordinated.
> Maybe I will get around it this weekend.
Hm, do you need some help with it for getting it done?
> > We still have more then 300 open bugs after two bug-squashing-partys
> > and several runs of dinstall. So there has been enough time and I don't
> > think that the next one will be more effective.
> When I worked on the rcb list I noticed that most bugs are pretty new. I don't
> think it is good to tackle a bug right after it was submitted without letting
> the maintainer do something about it. With enough time left to release there
> is no reason to hurry.
Well, I think, we should wait one week for a reaction of the maintainer
and then add the bug to the bugscan-list. Also I'm suprised how often in
the current report you can read the tag "Maintainer was contacted on Dec
12, awaiting reply". I think we should wait two weeks for a reaction but
then allow NMUs if the maintainer is not on vacation and left a note
about in on debian/private or on db.debian.org.
> > > > It's not important to get a good organisation and those RCBs closed?
> > > > Sorry, but then I don't will help at this bug-squashing partys.
> > > > Sometimes I have the feeling no one is interested in getting this number
> > > > down. :/
> >
> > > I have to say I'm very disappointed by your complete lack of trust..
> I think this behaviour is childish - I will not help, I will leave Debian.
> Can't we get above this?
Where do I say that I will leave Debian? I didn't say this, but
currently I notice that in many ways my opinion and my understanding of
things is different from the admins and other people. So I think about
my relation to Debian and if I real should work that much for it or not.
> > It's just the problem, that the number of bugs is still not getting down
> > and it seems many people forget about RCBs and the effect of the last
> > two partys was nearly above zero according to my knowledge. So I
> > distrust the effect of this party. I think this is quite understandable.
> While duplicated work slows down the pace at which bugs are closed more
> workers are always good so I would suggest to take part in the next
> "big bug bash festival" ;-)))
Well, I rather think I will stay in the background and wait to see how
many bugs are open after this and then work on them, because I think
that the coordination via IRC will be as bad again. Seems like the
people who could change that think that theirs no problem and so that
same will happen as at the last bug-squashing party.
Ciao
Christian
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