Re: BugSquash Party this sunday

[Torsten Landschoff <torsten@debian.org>]

I think I have to comment on this...

On Fri, Dec 17, 1999 at 03:43:35PM +0100, Christian Kurz wrote:
 
> > > Free to help? No real organisation through the whole time?
> 
> > Why do you continue to think that there is no real organization???
> > Have you ever participated in one of the learlier bugsquash days?
> 
> Because from the information which I got from Torsten Landschoff who
> took part on one of it. And after the "success" of the first party, I
> didn't want to take part on the second one.

While I think the first party was rather successful the second wasn't. At
least what I am concerned. When I joined the channel I asked what I should 
work on and after nobody noticed me I looked at the list and picked a bug.
After reading the whole bts log on it, getting the source and trying it 
out I discovered it was not a bug.

I wrote that to the channel and was acked 2 times from other developers who
did the same thing... This shows that you can't work on the bugs and read on 
the channel at the same time. At least it does not work all the time.

That time I wanted to write a bot who takes care of who is working on what
bug. Robot101 took that task and I used the time to work on my payed job.
But Robot did not complete the bot and I did not have enough time left since.
Maybe I will get around it this weekend.

> > That has never happened so far. The irc-channel is the *perfect* way
> > to organize this, and it's about 80% self-organizing.
> 
> Oh, after the information from Torsten this _has_ happened and I think
> this will happen again.

ACK. That you think it did not happen shows again that information is lost 
or at least not transferred.

> We still have more then 300 open bugs after two bug-squashing-partys
> and several runs of dinstall. So there has been enough time and I don't
> think that the next one will be more effective.

When I worked on the rcb list I noticed that most bugs are pretty new. I don't
think it is good to tackle a bug right after it was submitted without letting 
the maintainer do something about it. With enough time left to release there
is no reason to hurry. 

> > > It's not important to get a good organisation and those RCBs closed?
> > > Sorry, but then I don't will help at this bug-squashing partys.
> > > Sometimes I have the feeling no one is interested in getting this number
> > > down. :/
> 
> > I have to say I'm very disappointed by your complete lack of trust..

I think this behaviour is childish - I will not help, I will leave Debian.
Can't we get above this?

> It's just the problem, that the number of bugs is still not getting down
> and it seems many people forget about RCBs and the effect of the last
> two partys was nearly above zero according to my knowledge. So I
> distrust the effect of this party. I think this is quite understandable.

While duplicated work slows down the pace at which bugs are closed more 
workers are always good so I would suggest to take part in the next 
"big bug bash festival" ;-)))

Happy new year

    Torsten

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Torsten Landschoff           Bluehorn@IRC               <torsten@debian.org>
           Debian Developer and Quality Assurance Commitee Member