Re: pycharm package in debian

Le 1 oct. 2017 15:53, "W. Martin Borgert" <debacle@debian.org> a écrit :

On 2017-10-01 08:26, Ghislain Vaillant wrote:
> May I ask what would be the benefit for pycharm to be in Debian, when we
> already have the official Jetbrains Toolbox App or the snap package as means
> to install and update the application?

I usually start to use software, when it arrives in Debian.
Or I package it. If there is some snap or other third party
package, I'm unsure how to work with it:

You mean the average user cannot use Google? The installation instructions on Jetbrain's website sounds pretty clear to me, so is installing a snap package.

How to install? How to uninstall? How to report bugs and to
whom? How to download the source code and rebuild it? Is it
DFSG-free anyway? (Does it already build reproducible?)

You and I care about these things as Debian contributors. The average Joe however usually does not.

There is nothing wrong with having snap or other packages
available, but I'm not their target audience. But I'm an Emacs
- and vi! - user anyway :~)

Whatever works for you. Actually, vim can be turned into a fine Python editor.

Another question is, how much work it will be and whether it is
worth the effort, esp. permanent maintenance. But if somebody
wants to do it, why not?

Most likely a lot. We are talking about a large application with probably quite a few dependencies in Java / Kotlin.

Why not? Because failure to commit to regular updates would feed the current narrative that Debian ships old and loosely maintained software. Especially when there are other means of installing the software which are officially documented upstream.

I have been there with packages I personally maintain (spyder for instance), and I am raising these concerns out of my own experience and feedback from existing users. Feel free to disregard.

Ghis