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Re: PEP 453 affects Debian packaging of Python packages



Paul Tagliamonte <paultag@debian.org> writes:
> On Wed, Sep 18, 2013 at 03:22:19PM +0200, Piotr Ożarowski wrote:
>> [W. Martin Borgert, 2013-09-18]
>> > As a passionate pip hater I would go for a Conflicts,
>> > which finally would make pip uninstallable :~)
>> > Next steps: get rid of gem, npm, EPT, ...
>> 
>> +1 (unless all these "wheel re-inventors" will speed up a bit - they're
>> still where Linux packagers were 5-10 years ago)
>
> And *THIS* is why we get bad reputations.
>
>   1) pip isn't for global package management, for this is stupid. If we
>      disabled root use of pip, I think we'd all be a bit happier.

Yet it forces me to pass --install-option --user even when called as a
an unprivileged user.

> I don't understand the pip hate. Why don't you guys try and, you know,
> figure out *why* these tools were invented. It (for sure) is overly
> simplistic, but it's there for a reason.

Disclaimer: I actually like pip. But the above is really bugging me.

Best,

   -Nikolaus

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