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Re: Making Debian users more visible

Hi everybody

El 14/07/14 13:16, Silvia Frank escribió:
Hello Debian website team,

on the Debian publicity list we discussed how we can make Debian
deployments more visible. What do you think about following suggestions
concerning https://www.debian.org/users/ ?:
Oh great, I never notice this page on the Debian website until now.
Maybe we could make a link from the frontpage to the "user site"? Is it
possible to highlight the freshest or outstanding deployments, e.g. in a
box at the right side beside the list? The list of deployments is very
long and some of the entries seem very old, and I think visitors are
more motivated to click, if they can see, which are the latest.
Highlighting the user testimonials on the front page sounds like an
interesting idea. Unfortunately there is no machine-readable date
information in users section of the webwml CVS repository, so the
highlighting would need to be manual and we can't automatically sort by
date until that is fixed. Probably the highlighting would need to be
manual anyway? Could you make a mockup of how it might look? This topic
should be discussed on the debian-www list anyways.


Ah ok, this makes even small changes intricate. So maybe for the first
it is the easiest to put at the start site a link "Debian deployments"
or "Debian users" which goes to:

https://www.debian.org/users/  . The link could be in the first column of links:
About  <http://www.debian.org/intro/about>
Social Contract  <http://www.debian.org/social_contract>
Code of Conduct  <http://www.debian.org/code_of_conduct>
Free Software  <http://www.debian.org/intro/free>
Partners  <http://www.debian.org/partners/>
Donations  <http://www.debian.org/donations>
Contact Us  <http://www.debian.org/contact>

I agree about the place, but I would call that link "Who's using Debian?" (the title of the page). "Debian users" looks confusing to me (if I'm a Debian user looking for help desk, I would probably click there), and "Debian deployments" also suggests documentation for sysadmins wanting to deploy Debian IMHO.

And on https://www.debian.org/users/ we integrate at the right side a
simple box, where we put in newest and outstanding deployments. Attached
you find a very simple (pdf/ libre office-)draft, how it could look. The
background colour of the box should be the same blue as on top of the
side behind the Debian logo. I also shorten a bit the intro (also
because the entries are not listed alphabetically  :-) - what do you think?

Mmm new people sending "Who's using Debian" info may not mean that they just began using Debian, maybe they use it since years, and just now they decided to talk about it.

I'm not sure if it's ok to highlight certain deployments just because they recently sent a mail to us, in any case I wouldn't call it "Fresh deployments". Maybe "Recent testimonials"? I'm not sure, since they are not "testimonials", "recomendations"... "Recent submissions" gives machine-feeling, not human touch. I'm not native English speaker so I'm afraid I cannot help better on this.

To make the page more attractive, maybe create a map with the countries/cities, similar to https://www.debian.org/devel/developers.loc ? I suppose somebody should manually enter the coordinates or search for the coordinates of cities/countries, but maybe we can explain to the user how to gather coordinates and send to us (the same as it's explained for developers), if they want to appear in the map.

Other info related to this topic:

https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=600902 (RSS for users page, and map)

My two cents
Laura Arjona

I know a lot of time has been spent on the website over the years. But
anyway, I think in a longterm perspective it would make a lot of things
much easier and faster (and "up-to-date-looking" ;-)), if the Debian
website would be based on a CMS like Typo3 or Drupal. Maybe we should
give this a thought ;-)?


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