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Re: [External] Re: ThinkPad laptops preinstalled Linux





On Fri, Jun 5, 2020 at 9:13 am, Mark Pearson <markpearson@lenovo.com> wrote:
Hi Pirate

On 6/5/2020 5:03 AM, Pirate Praveen wrote:


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Hi Mark,

I also use a Thinkpad (X240) with Debian unstable, it mostly work except for some issues with touchpad and suspend (touchpad stops working after resuming from suspend, but I work around it using an external mouse).

OK - I'll see if I can find out about that. We previously had a similar issue on the X1C7 and that was fixed by a touchpad firmware update. I don't have a X240 myself but I'll see what I can find.


Thanks!

As someone who maintains a package that moves too fast for debian (gitlab which does not provide security updates to a release after 3 months) and part of the team that maintains https://fasttrack.debian.net, I am happy to help you here.
That's really interesting - thanks for pointing it out. I can see that being really useful - though I have to get my head around a bit more how/when it is used.

We have offcial backports for packages that are already in testing (which will be in next stable release), but packages like gitlab which cannot be supported in the lifetime of a normal stable release cannot be in testing and consequently cannot be in official backports. So we created a new repository for packages like gitlab which changes too fast and connot be in stable or backports. It is still an unofficial project and based on how it gets acceptance in the community, it could become an official project later (backports was also started as an unofficial project initially).


I also mentor a lot of new contributors to Debian, so feel free to ask me about any Debian issues and processes. I'm not an expert in drivers and hardware, but I can definitely help with backporting part. We could use fasttrack to make things available sooner to stable users if regular backports are not possible.
Thank you - that is very much appreciated.
I haven't so far got as far as thinking about the backporting stage so I probably need more education there. My goal so far has been to get fixes from upstream into sid so that Debian users can pick them up from there.
But being able to backport them from there would be brilliant.

$ rmadison linux-image-amd64
[older releases skipped]
linux-image-amd64 | 4.19+105+deb10u4 | stable | amd64 linux-image-amd64 | 5.5.17-1~bpo10+1 | buster-backports | amd64 linux-image-amd64 | 5.6.14-1 | testing | amd64 linux-image-amd64 | 5.6.14-1 | unstable | amd64 linux-image-amd64 | 5.7~rc5-1~exp1 | experimental | amd64

As you can see buster-backports already has linux kernel 5.5, even though stable is still at 4.19. But as Ansgar pointed out here[1], it is still not very smooth experience and is fine for a server app like gitlab, but we need more polish for this to be usable to not very technical users or find other ways like he mentioned, add as extra package to normal update. But if your expectation is for people who can pick up from sid, I think picking from backports would be easier.

[1]https://lists.debian.org/debian-project/2020/06/msg00019.html




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