I have taken my frustration to Sam, and he clarified one thing: Le mercredi, 19 février 2020, 16.17:00 h CET Sam Hartman a écrit : > So, I'm going to approve the budget with one change requested by the > DebConf committee. But see below. I (now) understand this to mean "both the budget and the use of Debian ressources" _are_ approved. This makes the following request _very_ bizarre. > My Request to Montreal Organizers > ================================= > > (…) > So, I ask you to find and make some meaningful, clear statement to show > support for our volunteers putting on DC20. > > I think the easiest way for you to do that is to withdraw your budget > request and for you to do the conference logistics on your own. (…) > > If that's not your choice, then I ask you to find some other meaningful > way (stronger than just words) to show support for the volunteers in > Debian, even though you disagree with the location. > > The choice is entirely yours. > This is a request. You can reinterpret it or even ignore it. At the risk of poking a little fun at recent US politics: this _really really_ reads as a /quid pro quo/. You are still saying "one way is to withdraw your budget request (…); if that is not your choice, I _ask_ you to find some other way". So what happens if they put your request to /dev/null, if you're not withdrawing the DPL approval? You are asking the Montreal miniDebConf Team to "show support for our volunteers putting on DC20" while, at *no point*, they have said *anything* contrary. They said "we cannot _attend_ DebConf20 for personal reasons", and now you're asking them to show their allegiance to the Debian project; or what is it?. That's not (quoting your own words): "valuing the other members of Debian even when you disagree with them". I'm really disappointed and sad that you found no other way to support both the DebConf20 _and_ the Montreal miniDebConf teams other than asking the latter explicitly to do without Debian's logistical support. OdyX
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