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Re: are Debian mentors nuts? the DebConf scandal



On Sat, Dec 28, 2019 at 10:42:11AM +0100, Mary-Anne Wolf wrote:
> I have been a financial supporter of Debian and FSF since... 2011
> at least.  I first used emacs in... the 1980's I think it was.
>
> Way to drive away any female supporter of Debian and Libre software
> generally, Debian! I really did think you were smarter than that.
>
> Look!  An intern, a recently completed intern or somebody on a diversity
> bursary to DebConf who wants to apply for an internship CANNOT give
> consent to sex.  That is why there is such a thing as statutory rape.
> Thus, whether the young lady was presented herself as willing or whether
> she was willing in any other sense, if she was there for those economic
> reasons, she CANNOT have given consent to sex, so the sex MUST have
> been rape as legally defined.
>
> Some of these women are very smart, smarter than many of the men here,
> but they still come from a whole different world economically.
>
> Consent is an important concept.  People were so pedantic about
> definitions of consent in the recent FSF scandal.  Why is Debian so
> blind to this?
>
> If Debian mentors are too stupid to understand that, Debian needs to
> throw them out with force and distance itself from them as fast as they
> can, before Debian loses the support of most of its female supporters
> and a large fraction of its more woke male supporters.
>
> It smells like these mentoring programs are fundamentally incompatible
> with Debian's structure and culture.  The CEO of McDonalds had to resign
> for something like this but Debian makes the excuse that DebConf is a
> social event.  You circulate rumours about a mentor who wasn't even
> at DebConf for the last two years but turn a blind eye to the real
> rogue behaviour.
>
> The comments by RMS pale in comparison to what people are saying about
> Debian, GSoC, Outreachy, groupies and casting couches at DebConf.
> The actions of only one or two Debian Developers can cast a shadow over
> all the interns.  Do you think these women are a perk, like having
> free beers or fitness centers in your silicon valley campuses? It
> is indefensible.
>
> Is Debian nuts?

No,  Debian is not nuts.


> Mary-Anne

Seen the "report".  Please state what you expect that should get happen.


Groeten
Geert Stappers
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