>>>>> "Steve" == Steve McIntyre <steve@einval.com> writes:
Steve> For those trying to undermine it with statements like "I'm
Steve> worried I'll be thrown out of Debian if I make a single
Steve> mistake", please give it a rest already. These are basic
Steve> principles on how we want all people to interact. If you make
Steve> a mistake and do a bad thing, people will tell you and ask
Steve> you to re-word, apologise, whatever.
Steve, I agree that the code of conduct is important.
I agree that some comments sound like they are undermining it or trying
to rehash old arguments.
I think that's draining.
However, I'd like to take a moment to ask all of us to empathize with a
common position.
We've seen two people who made significant technical contributions
expelled from the project. If you weren't paying a lot of attention,
there were no obvious public signs that a process was underway.
Many members of our project have never had to interact with a concerned
DAM team or the sharper parts of our conflict resolution process.
It's easy to worry that something will spiral out of control and you
will be ejected from a community that you've put a lot of your heart
into over the years.
As you say, we're all human and we all make mistakes.
As humans it is natural to feel insecure when you see something like
this happen.
Asking for reassurance that we'll be treated with compassion and
empathy, given a chance to understand what is going on and heard when
we speak our part of the story is natural.
THESE INSECURITIES AND ASKING FOR THAT REASSURANCE DOES NOT UNDERMINE
THE CODE OF CONDUCT.
In this instance the insecurities are stronger because we're seeing
people ejected and claiming that they were not given those chances and
that they were surprised.
To be clear, I am speaking from personal experience here. I think I've
made positive contributions to the project, and I know people over the
years have come to me when they had problems with what I did.
If I think about it rationally, I have confidence that I'd be given a
chance to learn and improve.
And yet I looked at this and wondered if I'd someday find myself the
subject of a surprise ejection.
I was able to convince myself that my fear stems from how much I care
about Debian. I do have confidence that even if there are trouble it
can be worked through. For that matter, even if I found myself on the
out, I could respectfully work to get back in and improve the process.
Yet I firmly support the code of conduct and the importance of creating
a safe space.
I ask you to separate those who are trying to question the code of
conduct from those who are seeking a very natural reassurance.
Thanks,
--Sam
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