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Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

Brian, what do you think of the successes of participatory budgeting in Porto Alegre https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participatory_budgeting?

Also doesn't that dailymail article state that it's mostly the upper classes that are tempted by the "mere smell" of money?

"One 2012 study by the University of Michigan showed that 'upper class individuals behave more unethically that lower-class individuals', which researchers said showed a more favorable attitude towards greed." 

Are you suggesting that Tanc-Dunc (I had misspelled it in my first search and I'm getting up to speed) was about socioeconomic class, in that event?

----- Original Message -----
From: Brian Gupta <brian.gupta@brandorr.com>
To: Martin Owens <doctormo@gmail.com>
Cc: Gunnar Wolf <gwolf@gwolf.org>; Manu Sporny <msporny@digitalbazaar.com>; Holger Levsen <holger@layer-acht.org>; debian-project@lists.debian.org
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 10:47 PM
Subject: Re: PaySwarm-based Debian donations

On Mon, Jun 17, 2013 at 10:31 PM, Martin Owens <doctormo@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote:
>> site requesting user's charity
> You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to
> participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that
> the tool being deployed is money rather than time.
> Your argument invites exclusion and you've not made a good case for why
> out-of-band unknown-to-everyone transactions are better. Only that it is
> technically possible to do so *kind of*. And that existing Debian
> members have said they find in-band transactions distasteful.
> Although we don't even invite users to participate with their time. So
> we're not even good at advertising Debian to Debian users anyway, even
> if it would be interesting and good for them to do so.
> Martin,


What do you think of this recent University Study?

Can we please close this thread now?


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