On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 22:31 -0400, Martin Owens wrote: > On Mon, 2013-06-17 at 19:03 -0500, Gunnar Wolf wrote: > > site requesting user's charity > > You mean user's involvement. You don't want users to be invited to > participate in Debian. Debian isn't elitist and it shouldn't care that > the tool being deployed is money rather than time. But donations are a gift, not a tool. You can't choose what the recipient does with a donation, and I doubt there are many donors willing to pay a few hundred £/$/€ per day for a DD or DM to work on whatever the developer thinks needs doing. (I could be wrong, of course.) Many DDs and DMs work as consultants or contractors. If a user wants to use their money as a tool for Debian development, they should hire one or more of these developers to work on the specific things the user is interested in. > Your argument invites exclusion and you've not made a good case for why > out-of-band unknown-to-everyone transactions are better. Only that it is > technically possible to do so *kind of*. And that existing Debian > members have said they find in-band transactions distasteful. > > Although we don't even invite users to participate with their time. So > we're not even good at advertising Debian to Debian users anyway, even > if it would be interesting and good for them to do so. We already invite bug reports, participation in mailing lists and forums, and donations to Debian's various fund-holders. I dare say I use quite a lot of bug reporters' time with some testing requests... Ben. -- Ben Hutchings Humans are not rational beings; they are rationalising beings.
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