Re: Greaat disappointment
NB: crossposting to debian-devel since my question below is Debian
sad to hear that you had such a displeasure... as an excuse I can only
say that it is not necessarily that people who "advised" you on the IRC
channels you have tried -- are the ones who "develop" Debian. Chat
rooms are open to anyone to participate so YMMV, so if I were you I
would be more careful on the judgments about the project. As far as
installation goes -- it should have been quite straightforward having
you chosen official images/instructions from
http://www.debian.org/distrib/ and just following questions of Debian
installation process which gives you options to facilitate installation
of Debian in your scenario. If something doesn't work -- then
please state what was not...
BUT your unfortunate experience lead me to actual question now: why
http://irc.debian.org leads to a webpage which visually seems to have
nothing with Debian in its appearance? I understand that it leads to
OFTC servers, but indeed it might be confusing for newcomers. Could we
ask for a VirtualHost entry for "irc.debian.org" with few simple
pages so we have adequate appearance/description ?
On Sat, 01 Oct 2011, Qactuar Rogue wrote:
> I was planning on installing Debian on a new laptop that had Windows 7
> I was researching the methods of installation for two weeks
> (partitioning etc).
> Then right before beginning the disk wipe and later the installation
> I had problems deciding on my own for what kind of partition table to
> and wanted to have feedback from somebody who has a comprehensive
> understanding on the subject.
> I went on IRC. Firstly I tried #Debian on irc.debian.org then I tried
> #Debian at chat.freenode.com
> I would like to express my greatest disappointment regarding the
> `helpfulness` of the people on the channel.
> On irc.debian.org everyone was a complete dumbass. On both channels I
> was told off for asking my questions by PMing someone
> who replied to my posting on the channel. My nick was Ti-chan. You can
> research if you please.
> I did nothing, just kindly asked for help regarding partitioning.
> In a community that is supposed to stand for friendship and kindness,
> on a channel that is there for helping people
> who choose Linux as an alternative, having people behave with you so
> unkindly is a shame.
> I still want Linux. I hate Windows. Microsoft is a disgusting
> transnational organization.
> I do not want Debian anymore however. I do not wish to use software
> developed by those
> people who are surfing on your IRC channels, thank you very much.
> I also considered investing into the Debian project by donating
> millions of dollars.
> To help the creation of software which can effectively conquer the
> popularity of Windows,
> A software which reaches most end users and helps them understand the
> pros of Linux and the cons of Windows.
> So that the computing world is reformed and pulled out of the shit it
> is currently deep in.
> I chose Debian because it is a community driven development project.
> Free of the idiotic marketing strategies and instability of other
> I would be most grateful if this message reached one of your key
> I do not understand how such negative experiences can happen to anybody
> in the Linux world.
> As a human being I am truly ashamed for such unkind people and as a
> denizen of this planet I am outraged
> that entire projects can slip because of people`s bad experience with
> Nobody can be surprised that most home users go for Windows. Many bad
> things can be said about
> Microsoft but they at least have the obligation of keeping an effective
> customer support service up and going.
> Thanks for reading my random ramble mortal.
> You may return to your duties.
> We may hear of each other again. I may consider creating my own
> foundation for an all new OS.
> Friendly greetings,
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