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Re: Problems with NM Front Desk


On Tuesday 06 July 2010 21:11:00 Raphael Hertzog wrote:
> On Tue, 06 Jul 2010, Felipe Sateler wrote:
> > On 06/07/10 10:09, Patrick Schoenfeld wrote:
> > <some stuff about Manuel not being ready for DD status>
> > 
> > AFAICT, none of this justifies silently removing someone from the NM
> > database.
> I can't speak for the NM team, but if he was asked to go through DM first
> (and that's what I understood), I could understand that his NM
> application got removed for now.
> Don't attribute it to malice.

1) Re: Rejected by not applying first to DM

That's not the reason that they gave here (in which they do not mention that 
I was removed, though can be deduced, that's why I went to find about the 
status of my application to DD):

reasons that I refuted in the subsequent message in the thread (that neither 
Christoph nor anybody else from FrontDesk replied, or explained in any 
manner, publicly or privately):

and that occurring *after* I had abided their (quoting Christoph) "'DM 
before NM' is a rule we have been inofficially enforcing for some time now 
and which will be officialised soon", accepted the counsel and had applied 
to DM:

My application for DM was "1 Jul 2010 03:11:46 +0200", the advocation 
message for DM at "01 Jul 2010 18:33:01 +0200", the deletion at some point 
the day after at "2 Jul 2010 10:23:37 +0200".  So wouldn't the application 
to DD should be put on hold, at most, after I accepted the counsel?

Isn't the requirement of DM fulfilled anyway by the active co-maintenance of 
OpenSceneGraph that I'm doing since the end of last year, even if I was not 
doing it properly putting myself in the Uploaders field, etc?

If Front Desk people don't think that I'm a good candidate because I've been 
arguing with them, doing the finger-pointing that they say, etc, shouldn't 
they explain themselves more clearly and refute/prove it (maybe appointing 
someone external but maintaining things private, if they think that my 
supposed finger-pointing is harmful to be made public)?

2) Re: notifications

Shouldn't the applicant receive a similar automated message when being 
dropped/rejected as the one when somebody is applying, or receive advocation 
(quoted below)?  Or at least appear in the weekly NM report or somewhere 
that I was rejected for this and that?

Application confirmation:
"Thank you for your interest in becoming a Debian Developer. Your name
and email address has been entered into the new maintainer database
at https://nm.debian.org/";

Advocation confirmation:
"Thanks for your recommendation of:
    Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <manuel.montezelo@gmail.com>
This applicant will hopefully be assigned an Application Manager soon."

I received neither automatic messages nor official explanations for 
rejection, other than the generic message of the 1st link in this message.

Manuel A. Fernandez Montecelo <manuel.montezelo@gmail.com>

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