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Re: On cadence and collaboration

Hi, Marc:

On Wednesday 05 August 2009 22:24:56 Marc Haber wrote:
> Hi,
> On Wed, Aug 05, 2009 at 09:32:36PM +0200, Jesús M. Navarro wrote:
> > In other words: freeze on december the first doesn't mean that if, say,
> > Gnome will publish it's new shiny 1.2 version by december the 15, the
> > last beta should have to be included, but that the december version will
> > ship version 1.1 (or whatever is the previous known to work stable). 
> > It's up to the upstreamer to decide if next time they will publish by
> > november the 15th instead of december the 15th so their latest greatest
> > gets to be shipped.
> So we basically force a time-based release schedule upon our upstreams
> when we do time-based freezes? I am not sure whether upstreams are
> going to like this.

Force? No!!!  How in hell could a user (a user of a royalty-free, freely 
distributable software no less) force anything on the provider? It's the 
other way around if any!

*BUT* you give them information, you know information is power, and they can 
do with it whatever they see fit.  They don't need to change their schedule, 
they don't need to care about a distribution at all, but you give them an 
(hopefully) easy to understand and remember schedule *in case* they want to 
take it into account.

On a different message Julien Blache states that "The freeze date for the past 
few releases has always been known in advance and refined as we went" but 
that's only true for Debian users and developers and even then not for any 
Debian user but only those really interested on the march of the 

On the other hand, I know Ubuntu produces new versions each six months about 
april/october or OpenBSD more or less the same and I don't even use them.  I 
never went to the Olympic Games and still I know they are every four years 
starting from 00, but I'm Catholic and I don't know the dates of next year's 
Holy Passion but that it will be about mid spring (I put this examples 
because they both are time-tied but while Olympics follow an easy rule, Holy 
Passion follows a convoluted one), see the trend?

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