Re: confusion about non-free (Re: Bits from the Debian Eee PC team, summer 2008)
On Sun, Aug 03, 2008 at 09:51:42AM -0300, Ben Armstrong wrote:
> Before this thread goes much further, examine the context, please.
> Read the whole thing and then tell me I am confused:
Just to make it clear, please don't take it as if I were recriminating
something to you. My understanding is that this problem is about general
perception and I don't think it's your fault in any way.
> Earliest Eee models fully supported in Lenny
> Lenny will release with the atl2 ethernet driver and the non-free
> madwifi-source now works with the earliest Eee models as well,
> My only error is that when I said "fully supported" I overstated the
> case. Lenny will certainly "work with" all of the earliest models.
I don't have an eeepc myself, but what I gather is that Lenny doesn't fully
support them; it is Lenny + non-free which does (or otherwise you have no
> Do you know what I'm feeling now, at a time when I should have been
> enjoying the first major success of our project after pouring months of
> our lives into it? Hurt.
It wasn't my intention at all to hurt someone, so I said things in the kindest
way I could, without getting personal. But you have to see both sides of
things. When I saw that mail, the first thing I think is the press will
pick it and announce to everyone that Lenny supports this hardware, with
the implicit assumption that we have dropped our ideals and joined the
non-free bandwagon (actually, this is still likely despite my reaction).
The ideal to stand and defend freedom is the whole reason I care about Debian,
so when I feel that its reputation is being damaged, I get hurt too.
Anyway, I really appreciate your work on making eeepc's better supported
The DRM opt-in fallacy: "Your data belongs to us. We will decide when (and
how) you may access your data; but nobody's threatening your freedom: we
still allow you to remove your data and not access it at all."