Re: my treatment in #debian
On Mon, 09 Jun 2008, Rahul Jain wrote:
> As a regular in #debian (on OPN/freenode) for over 5 years and a
> contributor to the debian project, one would expect that I would be
> treated slightly better by the ops than random newbies.
We hold everyone who contributes to the channel to high standards.
People who regularly contribute to the channel are expected to be more
considerate of people who have a problem and are frustrated because of
that, and to attack the problem, not the person having the problem.
Being a regular, you should have seen how all of the ops, including
stew deal with combatitive users calmly, answering questions even in
the face of infantile behavoir, and ideally learned from it. I'm sure
you've seen me (dondelelcaro) ban and/or silence multiple people for
continued personal attacks.
> That, however, is not the case. "stew" (Mike O'Connor) seems to have
> some personal vendetta against me and will silence me at the
> slightest mention of something negative about anyone else.
I've reviewed the logs of the instance in question, and temporarily
silencing you (as was done) to attempt to return the channel to
positively attacking the problem was an appropriate action, and one
that I would have taken had I been there myself.
You could have easily resolved this issue yourself by dealing politely
with the user, and utilizing /ignore if the user's problem was
> Sometimes, my entire company, ITA Software (approx 500 people), is
> silenced, and the developers here are active debian users and
> supporters to a large degree, particlularly the ones with the most
> linux experience here.
Silences often have side effects. We try to minimize them, and if at
any time one of your colleagues were to ask for an exemption, it would
be granted as a matter of course.
> Maybe I am just not wanted in the debian community, and I should
> refrain from contributing.
That's entirely your decision to make. However, please weigh
contributions you make to the community in terms of their positive and
negative aspects, and refrain from making negative contributions.
The state must declare the child to be the most precious treasure of
the people. As long as the government is perceived as working for the
benefit of the children, the people will happily endure almost any
curtailment of liberty and almost any deprivation.
-- Adolf Hitler _Mein Kampf_ p403