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Re: When Debian 4.1 will arrive... will anyone care?

On Fri, Apr 20, 2007 at 09:27:48PM +1200, Nick Phillips wrote:
> Craig Sanders wrote:
> > IMO, if you need a 'stable' system with some newer packages, you're
> > better off learning how apt's pinning stuff works than bothering with
> > backports.  it's not hard.
> The big difference is that with backports, they will be built with
> stable libs etc. as far as possible -- that means a hell of a lot less
> gets pulled in than with testing/unstable, no matter how you pin.

1. why is this allegedly a 'benefit'? what's so special about libraries?
why is a new libc6 or libssl etc more scary than a new apache or php

2. backports has new/updated libraries too. it may not be the exact same
set of updated libs as in unstable, or as many of them, but they're
still there and an upgrade to backports will pull them in if packages
need them.

in my experience, backports causes more trouble than either testing or
unstable. for one thing, you're running non-standard stuff that doesn't
get tested anywhere near as much as the stuff in testing/unstable.
and, more importantly, the upgrade path from backports to the next
stable release isn't tested anywhere near as much as the upgrade path
from old-stable to new-stable, or from testing/unstable to newer
testing/unstable (or to new stable)....so you're going to have new and
exciting problems when the next stable release comes around.


craig sanders <cas@taz.net.au>

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