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Re: Debian 4.0 finally arrives... does anyone care?

On Sun, Apr 15, 2007 at 09:30:13PM +0200, Andreas Tille wrote:
> On Sun, 15 Apr 2007, David Nusinow wrote:
> >Vaughan-Nichols is a troll, pure and simple, and we have vastly more
> >positive things to do for ourselves, for our users, and for the community
> >at large than listen to his puffed up sense of entitlement.
> OK, I try it once more: There was a valid point in his text and
> that was reflected in our BTS (the kernel issue).

True; but at the point he put out his article, that issue had already
been reported by other people. I'm quite sure that's where he found out,
rather than that he installed Debian and found out for himself.

> I did not said
> that the points he said about X were valid.
> The only thing I wanted to say is: We should not ignore a text for
> the only reason that the author is a troll.

That's true, if the text brings something new. Here, that wasn't the

* The author did not do any research himself, other than going to
  slashdot and read some comments. I'm sure I don't have to tell you
  what the technical background of the average slashdotter is.
* The author looked at Debian, ignored whatever we have accomplished
  since etch, looked very hard to find something that wasn't optimal (he
  found only two such things, of which only one really is a bug; the
  other is a case of "we're not there yet"), and then started to tell
  people how bad this Debian thing is.

Telling people that Debian is a very very bad distribution because
(insert two random issues with the .0 release here) isn't quality
journalism, IMO.

> It might happen that even trolls find something we can enhance.

That's true, but the author of this particular article did *not* find
something we can enhance. He merely copied something which *other*
people found that we could enhance.

It's no big deal if some minor issues are found with a Debian release
the day it gets released. We've had that in the past, and we've dealt
with it. Yet the author wants to make people believe it is a big deal.
That's trolling.

> If we find out that certain aspects of their writing reflect their
> usual trollish behaviour so we do not need to discuss this here,

Well, I think that is the case here.

Fun will now commence
  -- Seven Of Nine, "Ashes to Ashes", stardate 53679.4

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