Re: Open Letter to Anthony Towns about the d-i mediation ...
On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 08:06:23PM +0100, Mike Hommey wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 05, 2006 at 03:42:01PM +0100, Sven Luther <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> > On Tue, Oct 31, 2006 at 09:48:14AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > Hi Anthony,
> > Well, we had a chat with both Anthony and Sledge the other day, where i
> > explained my position, and asked for something to happen. I also sent them
> > some mail, and well, was positive that something will happen out of this.
> > But then, ...
> > On Sat, Nov 04, 2006 at 06:40:22PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > > On Fri, Nov 03, 2006 at 09:13:12AM +0100, Sven Luther wrote:
> > > > Right now, the problem, whatever the problem is, is not with me, [...]
> > >
> > > Sven, the problem is with you. It may not be wholly with you, but you're
> > > certainly the major contributor. Until you can accept that fact, things
> > > simply aren't going to improve for you.
> > Well, i am at a loss of what else to do, this is already the third time
> > blah blah blah
> This is exactly what Anthony was talking about... but you don't want to
> understand. THAT is the problem with you.
> For the nth time, it's not because the "mediation" doesn't end how you
> would like it to end that it failed.
Mike, really, i think i must be living in some kind of alternate universe or
Anthony, Frans, you, everybody say that i fail to understand that the problem
is fully with me, and this is why it goes on and on.
But this is *NOT* the reality, as the info i showed on that page shows
Anthony says :
Sven, the problem is with you. It may not be wholly with you, but you're
certainly the major contributor. Until you can accept that fact, things
simply aren't going to improve for you.
While i said a few days earlier :
I certainly have my part of responsability in this, but i passed though
times, as you know. Let's put pride and arrogance and remembrance of past
hurts aside, and let's again work on d-i all together, as it should be.
To which Frans replied :
[about the page finishing in the above] : My honest opinion of it: the
biggest load of self-satisfied and self-centered crap I've ever seen.
And reiterated :
But start acknowledging that you are the base cause of the whole situation
and no joeyh, not aj, not vorlon, not me.
Mike, if it is really all my fault and only my fault, please enlighten me on
how to interpret the above exchange.
How can i be the problem, if i have many times tried to solve it, and was
always rejected ? If you have a fair, honest and reasonable answer to this, i
*REALLY* would like to know abou it, but just insisting as you do above that
all problem is mine, isn't really helpful.