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Re: Experiment: poll on "switching to vim-tiny for standard vi?"

On Wed, Dec 21, 2005 at 09:14:16PM +0100, Jeroen van Wolffelaar wrote:

> ] Looking at popcon, vim has
> ] about twice the amount of users as nvi

The problem with this is that popcon tends to be self-selecting for
"fan-boys".  People setting up serious servers with Debian are not
going to be installing extraneous software like popcon, and casual
users are unlikely to find it interesting enough to install even if
they happen to notice its existance.

IMO, popcon should be treated as one would treat any other online
poll.  The data may be considered interesting or suggestive, but
should never be considered reliable or meaningul.  The "self-selected
sample" problem is exactly the same as in most online polls, and even
the possibility of ballot-stuffing cannot be ruled out.

Of course, since you're using popcon data as a starting place for an
online poll, that's actually quite reasonable (unlike many of the
other uses that have been suggested for popcon data), but I think it's
still important to remember that your starting data here is not

As for your poll itself: I find nvi to be a perfectly adequate
implementation of vi, and have never felt the urge to install a more
sophisticated vi.  I know nothing about vim-tiny, though, so I'm not
really qualified to vote.  My tendency would be to vote for whichever
is the smallest, as long as both are actually full implementations of
the vi spec.

Chris Waters           |  Pneumonoultra-        osis is too long
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