On Mon, Apr 25, 2005 at 03:14:41PM +0200, Martin Schulze wrote: > Steve Langasek wrote: > > > > > I wonder if snapshot shouldn't be promoted to an official debian.*org* > > > > > service in recognition of its value to the project. > > > > One concern I have, personally, is over precisely how much value > > > > snapshot.d.n provides to the *project*, as opposed to providing value to > > > > others outside the project. Since DDs have access to recently removed > > > > packages via the morgue on merkel (albeit not indexed nicely the way > > > > snapshot.d.n currently is), I really wonder if this service should be a > > > > priority for Debian to spend money on while our ports and other areas of > > > > core infrastructure are in a state of disarray (IMHO). > > > The snapshot service is very valuable when it comes to checking older > > > versions of packages. For example, it is a very, very good help for > > > doing security work when older package versions need to be reviewed. > > Out of curiosity, do you have a sense of how long after a package is dropped > > from the archive that it ceases being useful to you for security research? > At least as long as the package is in at least one of {oldstable, > stable, testing, unstable, experimental}. However, since there are > only rare cases of me dealing with removed packages, I can't rely on > experience. Sorry, I guess I wasn't clear. When I said "dropped from the archive", I meant the particular version of the package, not the package as a whole. > > According to <http://snapshot.debian.net/du/df.png>, it's already exceeded > > 1.2TB. That sounds to me like it would be one of the larger direct hardware > > purchases ever made by the project, so I do think it's a good idea to ask > > how much of this history is truly needed by the project -- the open-ended > > 1.2TB and growing of snapshot.d.n, or something more modest, like the 60GB > > used by the morgue? > Having source packages available indefinitively would be good. When > it comes to space problems, maybe dropping binary packages when the > version is older than what is in (old)oldstable currently would be an > option. At the current rate, that would suggest 3-4TB of usage total... that seems excessive to me, but if you say all of this data is potentially useful to you, then I accept that. -- Steve Langasek postmodern programmer
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