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Re: LSB Compliance

On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 12:16:14AM -0700, Chris Waters wrote:
> On Wed, Apr 30, 2003 at 04:48:29PM +1000, Anthony Towns wrote:
> > Isn't this whole thread about our users demanding it?
> If that's your interpretation of the thread (and it's not mine), then
> hadn't you better get cracking at implementing whatever the missing
> pieces might be?  Actions speak louder than words, y'know!  :p  ;)

deb http://people.debian.org/~ajt/lsb woody lsb/main

These were enough to get woody to support LSB 1.2 late last year;
unfortunately we've left it so late that it's not possible to get
certified for that, and LSB 1.3 has some additional requirements that
I expect we don't meet.

AFAIK, we still have bugs like #142072 blocking unstable from complying
with LSB 1.2 too.

> Personally, I don't think that one person asking a question qualifies
> as "our users are demanding it".  

I'd rather not set the bar any higher than that, personally. What are the
alternatives? Having people waste their time doing up petitions? Having
"me too"-fests? Not doing anything unless we get regularly flamed for
our inaction?

> Especially not a question from someone who isn't even using Debian.  

Would you have preferred "I am dropping Debian because it doesn't support
the LSB"? It means the same thing -- a user who'd otherwise be using
Debian choses not to over this one issue.

> (And, I mean, my god, three different people responded to that post; I
> responded last, and I was the only one he thanked.  Why the heck are
> you picking on me?  <*cowers and whimpers*>)

Who's picking on you? I'm just disagreeing with you.

> But more seriously, yes, I suspect this is the beginning of demand,
> and I suspect that we'll see more questions like this soon, and I do
> think we should move forward.  I also suspect that we're already darn
> close, and that it's going to prove to mostly be a matter of dotting
> 'i's and crossing 't's.  Maybe I'm just an optimist -- we'll see.

All it's a matter of is getting the fixes that we've already determined
we need into Debian. It's remarkable how difficult this has proven to be.


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