Re: OldWorld ROM Macintoshes
On Wed, 2025-09-03 at 01:34 -0600, Stan Johnson wrote:
> On 9/2/25 10:26 PM, Cedar Maxwell wrote:
> > Kernel 6.16 causes a black screen. No response to CTRL + ALT + F1,
> > F2,
> > etc.
> >
> > Please advise in troubleshooting.
> > ...
>
>
> I don't think you can necessarily conclude that the kernel is causing
> a
> black screen without more information. On your Wallstreet, did you
> replace Debian's 6.1.0-9 kernel that you mentioned earlier with 6.16,
> or
> did you upgrade all Debian packages ("apt-get dist-upgrade")?
I ran apt upgrade. However, if you'll recall, I faced this same issue
even with a clean installation, though that was maybe a year ago with
kernel 6.11 or so.
>
> If you ran a full "apt-get dist-upgrade" then there may some other
> issue
> causing the black screen. Do you see boot messages as the kernel
> starts
> to boot? Does the screen go blank at about the time a window manager
> starts? If you disable X11 by not running a window manager (I think
> Debian uses lightdm by default for Xfce), do you get a login prompt?
> Are
> you able to access the system over the network (ssh or telnet) or via
> a
> serial port? If yes, does /var/log/Xorg.0.log contain any useful
> serial port? If yes, does /var/log/Xorg.0.log contain any usefulall
> information?
I get no output whatsoever. After clicking "Linux" at the BootX
prompt, the screen goes black, no text or anything. This black screen
is what prompted me to believe the partitioning was incorrect, etc.
And in turn this is why it was recommended I try an older kernel to
see if it was partitioning/Mac OS 9/hardware or something else, or
Linux.
In kernel 6.1, I hadn't been able to get Xorg to launch yet, so I don't
anticipate finding anything useful in the Xorg.log because the system
boots up to a text prompt, not Xorg. It complains "no screens found",
probably due to no graphics drivers. The xserver-xorg-video-all and -
ati packages were already automatically installed.
I'll try setting up an SSH server by booting back into kernel 6.1 and
see if it comes up when I boot into 6.16, or reading Serial data from
the WallStreet's RS-422 port if I can find an adapter.
>
>
> > On Tue, 2025-09-02 at 20:31 -0500, Cedar Maxwell wrote:
> > > Good news gentlemen.
> > >
> > > Last time on OldWorld adventures: I attempted to install several
> > > versions of Debian but each attempt rendered the OS 9 install
> > > unbootable both in QEMU and on the WallStreet.
> > >
> > > However, the unbootability on the WallStreet appears to have been
> > > caused solely by my shoddy mSATA to IDE adapter. Although the
> > > installation didn't boot on QEMU, I tried another adapter (still
> > > JM20330 based) and it booted up. Note to QEMU maintainers
> > > perhaps
> > > lurking on this mailing list: Is this the intended behavior?
> > >
> > > I attempted to boot into Debian 6.1.0-9 using an image from 2023-
> > > 05-
> > > 08.
> > > Mission success! I don't know yet if this because of an older
> > > kernel
> > > version, or because I omitted the GRUB partition, but I intend to
> > > test
> > > updating the kernel and reporting back. ...
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