Hello Denis,
On Sun, Sep 10, 2006 at 09:48:11PM +0200, Denis Barbier wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 08, 2006 at 10:00:06PM +0200, Helge Kreutzmann wrote:
> > > Next I compare both the keyboard on the console and in X. Since the third
> > > level is (almost) not printed on the keyboard an I never use X (but normal
> > > keyboards a lot) I'd like to have the third level as on an ordinary keyboard.
> > >
> > > All keys which work as expected are not reported.
> > >
> > > Number row without any modifier:
> > > Key between ß and backspace does not respond (expected:')
> >
> > The leftmost key (next to 1) is < instead of ^
>
> Please test by setting XkbModel to macintosh_old2. As explained in
> other subthreads, these 2 keys are swapped for some models. The
> macintosh_old2 name is a temporary one and will be changed in the
> final version.
Yes, this is correct now. The main deficiency (from my POV) is that
the brackets are still "goofed up" (but I think this might by the mac
layout) (i.e. []|{}} instead of {[]}\), Apple-Q still yields « instead of @
and that ` is not printed (I can get it by Apple-#)
> > > Number row with Apple key pressed:
> > > 2 and 3 ok; but then mixed up,
> > > starting at 5: []|{}}\
> > > should be (from 7): {[]}\
> >
> > This is still the case
Also for macintohs_old2
> There are 4 German Macintosh layouts in /usr/share/keymaps/mac:
> * mac-de2-ext.kmap.gz
> 3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
> wrong, for instance 7 has keycode 26 instead of 8. (ADB keycodes?)
> * mac-de-latin1.kmap.gz
> 3rd level for number keys are the ones you want, but keycodes are
> wrong too.
> It is broken since it includes "include/mac-qwerty-layout" which
> does no more exist in console-data in sid. (Bug in console-data?)
> * mac-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
> 3rd level for number keys are the same as in X, and keycodes are
> wrong too.
> * mac-ibook-de.kmap.gz
> You submitted this one, so it is surely the one you are using ;)
Probably, but I've never given it that name. What would be the proper
one, i.e. which of these 4 are intended to stay and support PC-style
german ibook keyboards? (And how does this relate to macintosh_old2?)
> And there are also USB variants in /usr/share/keymaps/i386/qwertz:
> * mac-usb-de-latin1.kmap.gz
> Looks similar to X keymaps.
> * mac-usb-de-latin1-nodeadkeys.kmap.gz
> Ditto.
These are for external USB keyboards, correct?
> All console layouts use @, so X has surely to be changed.
Great to hear.
> > > Yxcv-row, with Apple key pressed:
> > > Apple-Y is « and Apple-X is » (which unfortunately does not work on
> > > the console), which is great! (Ideally I'd like them swapped, as in
> > > german they are "reversed" compared to the french/swiss usage)
> >
> > This is still the case
>
> It makes sense, this change can be pushed upstream if there is a consensus
> amongst German Mac users.
I thinks at least the translators will like it, as »« are the current
quotes used. If you like, I can ask on the german debian translators
list for comments.
Greetings
Helge
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