Re: Bug#382129: Is now a good time to revisit installer not booting on OldWorld PowerMac beige G3?
--- brian <firstname.lastname@example.org> wrote:
> i tried the sept5th version of 2.6.18-rc6 from
> ppckernel with bootx on powerbook3400, it hangs
> at the first line, "Welcome to linux ..."
> i tried to pull Sven's link there but that page
> was blank/said "adress unavailable - check
> does it need to go via rsync or curl or
> something ? (if so please an exact command)
> i should also be trying quik, i just tried "quickly"
> and it told me "no hfs partition". i had used
> this before, with sarge but not since i replace
> my drive and my partitions arranged different maybe.
> i ask myself why do i care about this, i am using
> 15 everyday a couple hours or more so far no serious
> problems. well i see in the log online a lot looks
> like more serious things taken care of in later 17s
> and 18. also if i am the only person right now
> this particular machine and it happens to be helping
> me, i want to keep it going (my little miracle here)
> if i had a vote here i would say that both 2.6.8 and
> 2.6.15 should be on the cd for now. yes you can
> even boot 8, it will not start udev but it will make
> you an initrd for booting 15. (some people maybe
> could boot 8 without one, but not 15)
> i am still confused about how we really need the new
> initramfs. does anyone really know ? isn't is partly
> the udev support, as well as the sound support (as
> noted earlier seems to have security implication to
> load before disk drivers). how much of this is
> to powerpc, how much to later models only.
> i think the kernel could already be too big. i
> saw a reference today a guy said a few years ago
> he could boot a 3.5MB kernel with quik but not a 4MB
> the 15-17s i have here are in that range. the
> 18 is 5MB.
> --- Sven Luther <email@example.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 03:35:17PM -0400, Rick
> > Thomas wrote:
> > >
> > > On Sep 16, 2006, at 3:05 PM, Sven Luther wrote:
> > >
> > > >On Sat, Sep 16, 2006 at 09:50:03AM +0200, Frans
> > Pop wrote:
> > > >>On Saturday 16 September 2006 09:09, Rick
> > wrote:
> > > >>>Is there someone out there who will work with
> > me to get a kernel
> > > >>>that
> > > >>>boots to run debian-installer on my beige G3
> > PowerMac (OldWorld)
> > > >>>machine?
> > > >>
> > > >>I'd like to see that happen.
> > > >>
> > > >>>If not, I think it may be time to withdraw
> > OldWorld PowerMacs from
> > > >>>the list of hardware supported by the Debian
> > Installer.
> > > >>
> > > >>Note that as I understand there are also
> > problems booting the kernel
> > > >>outside the installer (i.e. just upgrading an
> > installed system), this
> > > >>does not seem to be a Debian Installer issue,
> > but rather a powerpc
> > > >>kernel
> > > >>or kernel configuration issue.
> > > >
> > > >Its actually a problem with the ramdisk
> > generators and/or
> > > >bootloaders, not the
> > > >kernel proper.
> > >
> > > Actually, from the symptoms I'm seeing, it may
> > be getting far
> > > enough to encounter ramdisk problems. (Not to
> > there are no such
> > > ramdisk problems, just that what I'm seeing is
> > diagnostic for
> > > them.) I gave fairly detailed notes in the
> > previous bug report,
> > > Bug#382129. Let me know if you want more
> > information.
> > >
> > > If Sven is right, that leaves bootloaders.
> > Are you using quik or bootx ?
> > This patch :
> > [POWERPC] Fix BootX booting with an initrd
> > The bootx_init.c trampoline didn't properly add
> > the ramdisk to the
> > "reserve map" (list of reserved areas of
> > thus causing all sorts
> > of failures when using BootX with an initrd.
> > fixes a possible
> > problem if the ramdisk is located before the
> > device-tree passed by
> > BootX.
> > Might be of interest to solve this problem, which
> > why i suggested trying
> > the latest 2.6.18-rc kernel before. Please try and
> > provide feedback.
> > Friendly,
> > Sven Luther
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