Re: PowerPC desktop -- asking for trouble?
On Fri, Jan 07, 2005 at 11:07:00AM +0100, Ingo Juergensmann wrote:
> On Thu, Jan 06, 2005 at 11:53:01PM +0200, Leandro Guimarães Faria Corcete Dutra wrote:
>
> > > Yeah, indeed... it really seems that IBM doesn't want Power(PC) to be a
> > > successor.
> > I assume you meant simply success, as you didn't point successor to
> > what -- I'd assume successor to the IA-32.
>
> Yes, of course success... :)
>
> > > But that's somewhat IBM typical. Remember OS/2. There's a long
> > > term support for OS/2, but over all the years, IBM failed to really make it
> > > popular.
> > Not only OS/2, but also PS/2 and various generations of POWER.
> > Remember the IBM PowerPC workstations and notebooks running OS/2?
>
> Yes, there are several examples how bad IBM marketing sometimes is - if it
> exists at all! ;)
>
> > > Freescale aims at a different market than IBM. IBM goes for big iron systems
> > > and midrange servers, Freescale for embedded systems and low end.
> > Yeah, but these Genesi systems really look underpowered. I'd still buy
> > them if I could -- would have done if I hadn't lost my job in
> > Switzerland --, but they really offer no competition to mainstream PCs.
>
> Yes, the peg2 boards are somewhat behind in some regards. There's still the
> possibility to replace the CPU module by a faster one. Sadly, there is none
> available. It would be nice if some third party vendors would bring some to
> market - but that market is too small yet.
> Furthermore it would IMHO make more sense to put the RAM modules as well on
> the module and just keep the basic things on the mainboard such as IDE, PCI
> and other IO ports. Dunno if this is possible with all those North- und
> Southbridge thingies...
>
> > And IBM simply won't go cheap enough.
>
> Indeed. So there's just Apple and Genesi and Hyperion out there.
Hyperion doesn't count, their hardware are buggy, and i am not aware of anyone
buying it apart from some deluded Amiga OS 4 wanabee users. See also previous
post on benh here about the dma-on-articia and linux issue.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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