Re: Java debs anyone?
On Thu, Dec 16, 2004 at 12:31:02PM -0800, Eric Gaumer wrote:
> On Thu, 2004-12-16 at 13:36 -0500, Barry Hawkins wrote:
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> > Eric Gaumer wrote:
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> > | If you feel so passionate about free software then lets boycott the use
> > | of Java. Who is willing to go that far for their beliefs?
> > |
> > | Like I mentioned earlier, dump Java and start supporting mono. It's
> > | fully open and could easily rival Java. C# already fixes all the
> > | nuisances and problems Java has. It is what Java wanted to be.
> >
> > Eric,
> > ~ Your claim that Mono "could easily rival Java" is rather general and
> > quite unfounded. If you want to start a thread on Mono advocacy, then
> > feel free, but the issue at hand is appropriately respecting licenses.
> > ~ There are people on the Debian development teams who have gone to
> > great lengths to ensure that order and propriety are maintained within
> > the Debian packaging system, including observance of and adherence to
> > licenses. If you are going to flout adherence to licensing, please keep
> > it to yourself and cease with this relativistic rhetoric.
>
> Nobody is mocking the license, we're just trying clarify what exactly it
> permits.
>
> If you have a degree in IP law then please comment, if not then I'm not
> interested in your ad hoc opinion of how to interpret the license or in
> some lecture on moral ethics.
>
> I wish everyone would stop saying that mono is irrelevant. It is
> absolutely relevant to this entire topic. We are arguing over licensing
> issues. Mono is free and Java is not. C# is geared at superseding Java.
C# is an attempt of Microsoft to take more controll over the program we write,
and should be avoided if possible.
Friendly,
Sven Luther
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