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Re: AmigaONE && Debian (unstable?)

On Sun, Aug 01, 2004 at 11:03:32AM +0200, Turbo Fredriksson wrote:
> Quoting Sven Luther <sven.luther@wanadoo.fr>:
> > > The 'linux-kernel-di-powerpc' package from the 'debian installer' will
> > > depend on this (and the 'kernel-{image,modules}-2.4.25-amigaone' packages
> > > which will in turn be built using the source kernel package above) to make
> > > the installer aware of AmigaONE.
> > 
> > Ok, so what is your plan ? Build your own forked debian-installer, or
> > contribute your changes back to the main debian kernel ? 
> Naturaly this is a semi-official Debian GNU/Linux effort! EVERYTHING will end
> up in 'official distribution'. That's the whole point.

Yeah, but you suffer from the "let's make it perfect before we merge it in"

> > Also notice that powerpc is phasing out the 2.4.x kernels in favor of the
> > 2.6.x ones, which will be installable by default, so if you would be able to
> > forward patch those, it would be really great, and we may even consider adding
> > them to the debian kernel package, altough i fear what Christoph will have to
> > say from a 1.8MB patch. Is all this really necessary ?
> The only part that's relevant is a patch that's ~28Kb. The 1.8Mb you (might have)
> seen at the URL was faulty. It contained a lot of .orig and .rej that I've forgot
> to remove from the 'old' directory, but DID remove from the 'new'...
> Porting this to 2.6 shouldn't be IMPOSSIBLE. Have no 'intention' to do this at
> this moment. If everything works OK with 2.4, then I might take on the task
> on porting to 2.6, but I rather have a 'real kernel hacker' do this for me :)

Please, try the 2.6 port, and abandon the 2.4 stuff. This will most assuredly
never go into the upstream 2.4 kernel, and both debian and upstream powerpc
kernel developers want to abandon 2.4 in favor of 2.6 kernels.

> > I had a quick look at it, and there is two remarks i can do :
> > 
> >   1) please call those amigaone-2.4.25.diff, as they should.
> I'm already doing that. Just not on the URL shown, but in the package (and/or
> the patch you'll get 'eventually' - i.e. when I've had a chanse to test it for
> real :).


> >   2) it would be nice to remove all those .orig files cluttering the patch,
> >   and you may bring the size down a bit. Also, please resolve :
> >   linux-2.4.25.PowerPC/arch/ppc/boot/Makefile.rej 
> Sorry, forgot that. 
> > Also, are those patches against the kernel-source-2.4.25 package, or against
> > the kernel-source + kernel-patch-2.4.25-powerpc package ? 
> The latter... However, there's the 'amigaone-powerpc.patch.txt' which I'm not
> sure about...

My main problem with those stuff was the fear that they might include the
whole of the linuxppc_2_4 patches also, like the early peg1 patches did.

> The raw/semiraw AmigaONE patch 'created' a powerpc patch, where (a large) parts
> of this is availible in the kernel-patch-2.4.25-powerpc ppc patch. At the URL,

Yeah, exactly. Lot of work to extract from it a few handfull of the actual

> I've put the missing parts in the file amigaone-powerpc.patch.txt. I'm not sure
> exactly what that is (yet), but it doesn't look AmigaONE specific. More like a
> 'backport' of some kind... It also contain two .rej files, which I was not able
> to resolve (quickly). That's how I ended up with the conlusion that it was/must
> be a backport..
> If someone regognise them, good. Othervise I'll have to dig through kernel
> source(s) to see if I can find where they originate...

Maybe just use those parts you identified, and do the porting again with them,
using the bigger patch as reference. Ususally works better this way.

Still, please try out 2.6.7+ directly, it should be much easier and

> > Finally, i will be releasing a 2.4.26 powerpc kernel package next week, so
> > please provide a diff against this one (kernel-source + powerpc patch).
> Fair enough. I'll do 2.4.25 packages localy to test the kernel with, and when
> you release 2.4.26 I'll 'port' everything to that...


> > > Everything here is already done localy. I just have get my AmigaONE installed
> > > so I can start building packages for the PPC :)
> > 
> > Bah, please don't go the same way this happened last year, and have a thought
> > at providing the packages back upstream, altough i believe it may well be too
> > late for the sarge release by now, at least for debian-installer which is very
> > near the release.
> I was 'donated' this machine in the sole purpose in getting OFFICIAL support for
> the AmigaONE in Debian GNU/Linux. Holding back on ANYTHING will void our agreement.

So, why didn't you do so ? In all this past year i never saw a patch and
bugreport from you ? And it took me from december to around now to get proper
d-i support for the pegasos.

> I alredy expected that it would be to late for sarge, no worries. My main goal
> is to get it SUPPORTED, not in getting it supported NOW...


> Btw, what happened last year that you refer to?

there was already a thread about amigaone, and nothing happened.


Sven Luther

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