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Re: Which installation on Pmac 867 single-cpu?



On Sat, Jul 24, 2004 at 03:26:29PM -0700, jon salenger wrote:
> Anyway, because my initial interest in GNU/linux was inspired by 'The
> Cathedral and The Bazaar' (which a friend, the sysadmin of AMNH, pointed me
> to) and lectures by Richard Stallman, the distro I really want to use is
> Debian, as it seems the closest to fsf and GNU (and, frankly, looking at the
> discussion boards, the best community).

The community is often forthright, but I love it. :-)

> 1) Which version to install?
> 
> From my reading of the mailing lists, it seems I might be better off
> installing sarge than woody. I've already dl'd the
> "debian-30r2-powerpc-binary-.iso"s ISOs, but explicit advice before I try
> them would be most appreciated. Keep in mind I'm a nuB++, UNIX and
> GNU/linux.

I think you're right that sarge will be easier. Installing woody on
powerpc could be quite difficult depending on your hardware (it was a
pain for me when I got this PowerBook, and I'm glad I already knew
Debian well and only had to deal with the machine-specific bits), while
the sarge installation process is pretty streamlined now, particularly
when installing with the 2.6 kernel. If you have problems, please do
file an installation report and we'll try to squeeze in a fix.

> 2) Which method of installation to use?
> 
> I installed YDL with ISOs, as mentioned above, and it went rather smoothly.
> My default, as such, would be to install again using CDs. I have read a good
> deal about network installation of debian, and to be honest, I find it a bit
> intimidating, but if advised seriously to do so, I guess I can take the
> plunge and try it out *eek!*.

With sarge, the easiest approach at the moment is to grab the current
daily businesscard or netinst ISO image, rather than a full CD. Those
images do grab various numbers of packages from the network, but they
take care of almost all the mechanics of that themselves.

If you want to install with 2.6 directly, use a businesscard image; the
netinsts don't have the 2.6 kernel .debs on them yet.

Full sarge CDs for powerpc haven't really been tested much yet.

Network *booting* is also possible, but (a little) more work. In your
case it wouldn't buy you anything.

> I also read a little about jigdo, which debian seems to highly
> recommend, and I'd assume I could use it with YDL (if I can get it to
> install). Anyone recommend it personally?

You don't need it for the businesscards or netinsts. jigdo is useful for
downloading full Debian CDs, speeding up downloads and lowering server
load by getting most of the bits from a local mirror. It's more worth it
for stable releases, though.

> 4) On the ftp site I'm using (debian.lcs.mit.edu), I also notice a 3.0r2.01
> update iso. I apologize for the stupid question here, but, assuming this
> contains more recent updates to the woody distro, would I use it during the
> installation process (as disk#1?) or after installation, (or should I just
> ignore this iso altogether)?

I'd never heard of that CD before, but I see it on cdimage.debian.org. I
think it's basically a set of the changed packages from 3.0r0 to 3.0r2;
see <http://www.debian.org/CD/faq/#update-cd>.

> 5) I've subscribed to this list, but is there any way to get the emails in a
> digest format??? I get 100 emails min. a day already :(

There are digest versions of some Debian lists, but I don't believe
-powerpc is one of them, I'm afraid. Once you get Debian running well
it'll probably be worth investigating the various mail filtering
options.

All the best,

-- 
Colin Watson                                  [cjwatson@flatline.org.uk]



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