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Re: Trying to install on oldworld powermac



Hi Fraser,

some pointers (if you haven't found them yet):
I did get woody's installer up and running from BootX but I want to get rid of MacOS entirely. My understanding is that I should be able to use the Quik
bootloader, bypassing the need for MacOS/BootX.

Yes, quik should work fine when configured properly. Getting it right is the hard part. But have faith, I no longer have a Mac OS on my box :) Unfortunately it's not a G3.

I strongly suggest not running quikconfig on your box without saving a copy of quik.conf first! Then have a look to see what quikconfig thinks is good for you, and change back if it doesn't work.

OF and quik make a great Linux only bootlader for me.

I was following the instructions at
http://mfdh.ca/apple/debian_on_oldworld_mac.html and the system isn't booting
from floppy.  Now I have a few problems:

Seems it will only boot the second time, or not at all?!?! Check out the footnotes at

http://www.netbsd.org/Ports/macppc/models.html#powermac


- I can just make out that open firmware is onscreen when I boot but
unfortunately I cannot read anything else. My monitor displays about 6 copies of openfirware screen in narrow vertical bands, there's some shake
  and it's too fuzzy to understand any of the output.

That is not good, since the OF is the best place to find out what your video settings might be. Can you do a two box setup with another mac? If not, do you use the standard video card of the G3? Someone will probably know the right setting for that.

- I can no longer get into MacOS, which I need to do to (easily) reprogram
  openfirmware

The monitor is a 20" Mediascan 7A ... any ideas why openfirmware isn't
displaying correctly?

Likely that the OF defaults (e.g. after an reboot with option-control-p-r or boot into Mac OS) to some dev that isn't right for you. Could you use a different monitor and the original video interface of the G3 to test if you can see OF them?

If yes, then
dev / ls
devalias

and looking at the video nodes in OF with .properties may uncover the settings you need.


Any help you can give me is greatly appreciated, not being able to clearly see openfirmware is the biggest issue right now, if I can get past that then I
can hopefully figure out the rest.

I found the apple tech notes 1061 1062 1004 on OF quite helpful to understand what the hell is going on.

Christian



Thanks!
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Fraser Campbell <fraser@wehave.net> http://www.wehave.net/ Georgetown, Ontario, Canada Debian GNU/Linux


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