I've got a couple of the 2-slot 24-bit MCA graphics adapters in my closet i'll donate to the cause. These might be "perfect" for the MCA effort, because they aren't supported in AIX 4.x, so they're relatively easy to come by. If anybody is really writing code for the MCA boxen, I'd be glad to ship 'em out. -- Doc Shipley Network Support TARL Labs, UT Austin, Texas