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Where is erlangen or chiark?

 This might sound stupid but i would really like to know =o)
 When new packages are announced they have something like uploaded to erlangen
or chiark added. Where are those servers and where can i find those packages
on those servers? I would try some of them before they get to main debian ftp

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