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Bug#159114: marked as done (debian-policy: non-us server is located in a country where it's possible to patent algorithms)



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Subject: debian-policy: non-us server is located in a country where it's possible to patent algorithms
From: "Adrian Bunk" <bunk@fs.tum.de>
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<--  snip  -->

...
2.1.5. The non-US sections
--------------------------
...
     Programs which use patented algorithms that have a restrictied license
     also need to be stored on "non-us", since that is located in a country
     where it is not allowed to patent algorithms.
...

<--  snip  -->


This seems to be wrong:


<--  snip   -->


$ nslookup non-us.debian.org
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server:         10.150.127.2
Address:        10.150.127.2#53

Non-authoritative answer:
Name:   non-us.debian.org
Address: 130.89.175.34

$ nslookup 130.89.175.34
Note:  nslookup is deprecated and may be removed from future releases.
Consider using the `dig' or `host' programs instead.  Run nslookup with
the `-sil[ent]' option to prevent this message from appearing.
Server:         10.150.127.2
Address:        10.150.127.2#53

Non-authoritative answer:
34.175.89.130.in-addr.arpa      name = debian.snt.utwente.nl.
34.175.89.130.in-addr.arpa      name = satie.debian.org.

Authoritative answers can be found from:
175.89.130.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.surfnet.nl.
175.89.130.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns1.utwente.nl.
175.89.130.in-addr.arpa nameserver = ns2.utwente.nl.
ns1.surfnet.nl  internet address = 192.87.106.101
ns1.utwente.nl  internet address = 130.89.1.2
ns2.utwente.nl  internet address = 130.89.220.2

$ 

<--  snip  -->


E.g. the mp3 patents by Thomson multimedia and the Fraunhofer
institute [1] are valid patents in the Netherlands.

cu
Adrian

[1] http://www.mp3licensing.com/patents/index.html







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>>"Adrian" == Adrian Bunk <bunk@fs.tum.de> writes:

 Adrian> There remains the issue that _many_ Debian mirrors do mirror
 Adrian> non-US which means that the same issue might affect one or
 Adrian> more of them.

 Adrian> Please make a separate "patented" and don't misuse non-US for
 Adrian> this without checking the possible legal implications in
 Adrian> _all_ countries where servers mirror non-US first.

	This is a bogus argument, on several levels. Forstly,
 throughout the life of non-us, we have had the programs with patent
 encumbrances there. Secondly, when we had crypto in non-US, we did
 not create separate subparts, even though some countries had similar
 objections to a subset of crypto programs. And, lastly, (and this is
 the most important, and this alone justifies this action, even if I
 am horribly wrong on the first two counts) policy documents current
 practice; and what you have is current practice.

	I have forwarded this reply to the admin team for any action
 they see fit to take, and I am closing this policy report.

	Thanks for your continued interest in Debian.

	manoj
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